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Originally Posted by timewarrior2001
Its a strange one this.
Just read the whole thread.
He's not ripping off the pensioners as such.
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Charging someone for something they could get for themselves for a few £'s more? (not only that, but they would get
dedicated ISP support) I call that a rip off.
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He has told them for £10 a month they can share his connection and he will support them as much as he can.
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Immoral & Illegal.
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Now yes T&C's say you must not share out of your house. What if you have a home office in an out building and a PC in the main house, thats acceptable but your still going to breach T&C's
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But that's not the case here, & so it's not relevant.
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Originally Posted by timewarrior2001
He says neighbours, now if its wireless he's only gonna be realistically sharing with neighbours either side (and he did mention that he was only next door)
So what he has done is slightly enlarged his network, provided a hassle free connection for the pensioners and re-coups some of this initial outlay.
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What happens when the OAP needs help & he's not around? & I weould guess he's more than recouping his outlay too.
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Thats 3 PC's on one connection and within T&C's with the exception that its involving 2 other properties. Now to me thats NTL saying you cant do it because it screws them out of screwing others out of money. Not because of any affect it may have on the network.
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One connection per household-simple-perhaps BT would be happy if one person had the free calls 24/7 option, & let all the neighbours (who didn't have BT lines at all) use it?
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I dont find too much wrong with that, I'm not certain that I find it acceptable but I'm not quite as against it as others, I know of lots of people that share with neighbours via wireless routers in lofts.
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That doesn't make it right though.
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I dont think NTL will do too much, not in regards to this specific part, about his web hosting etc if it is indeed on his residential ntl connection maybe.
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I think you're wrong.
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I doubt he will get more than a written warning.
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See above.
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And before I get flamed, I am not defending the guy just trying to look at it in a realistic way.
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Then be reasistic, & realise that he is trying to cover his BB costs at the expense of OAPs who know no better.
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His charging £10 a month for internet access and unlimmited support is good I think, I know of shops that charge a £25 call out and then labour and parts on top.
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And you think that's acceptable do you?
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Talk about ripping of customers, well NTL is not going to offer them better by taking £10 a month and offering no onsite support is it?
Each to their own I guess.
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But they could get a basic 256k BB service from an ADSL provider for literally a few £'s more, & get proper support-not when Simpsonsfan is available.
Sorry-but there's no getting away from the fact that this is illegal & immoral, & I hope ntl take him to court.