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Old 08-06-2005, 13:02   #190
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Re: School stands up for discipline and rules

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This is a bit off topic

6. Graham has a well thumbed copy of the Dictionary of Quotations which he puts to effective use
Actually, no I don't (although I've thought about buying it on more than one occasion, just never got around to it) it's just like the quizzes, I happen to know a whole bunch of stuff and that includes quotes (although I do tend to google to check sources/ original quoters).

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(although if we knew who Inigo whatsisname actually was that use would be even more effective!)
Have you *never* seen The Princess Bride??? If you haven't, go to your nearest video/ DVD supplier and get a copy because you've missed a real treat!

"My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die!"

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7. To mutual consternation Orangebird and I have found ourselves agreeing with each other
It's interesting to note the differences in the usual positions in this thread

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8. This thread is seemingly dead. It has ceased to be, intellectually speaking.
Not Pythonically speaking?
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err, excuse me whilst I choke on the irony
To quote Inigo Montoya:

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means..."
Whoooosh.
Right sound, wrong head...!
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On the one hand we have the "Daily Mail" speculation that (paraphrased) "if we let the little buggers have an inch they'll take a mile and society will fall down around our ears" (something which doesn't actually seem to have happened) wheras on the other we have the evidence of children, especially those from minorities, being excluded from schools and, having nothing better to do/ no better guidance and ending up becoming criminals.

Perhaps you just jumped to a conclusion there?
Not at all,it was just an aside that I found amusing.

You were quite happy to deride the poster as a Daily Mail reader (the proposed chain of events he posted was not a quote from the Daily Mail)
I never said they *were* from the Daily mail. I *compared* his comments to the sort of ones that come from the Daily Mail. There's a noticable difference.

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for logging a possible but not a totally likely, or proven, chain of events that might happen if we don't enforce rules onto children.

And in the same post was quite happy to take on board and equally unproven and equally improbable chain of events that might happen by disciplining the child as your counter argument.

There is certainly no more evidence in the quote you posted to prove that excluded children all go on to be criminals than there was in the other post to prove that society would crumble.
Except that what I quoted was not "equally improbable" and that quote was just one from a whole *raft* of cites and examples from those links I posted several of which *do* demonstrate that children who are excluded from schools are more likely to become criminals.
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