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Originally Posted by BBKing
Oh, there's *another* fair play table, is there? Why are European places up for grabs from this one, then, if the other one's the real one? Are the fans not part of the club? Well, they aren't at the Theatre of IOUs any more, of course.
If a club had no one sent off all season, but the fans wrecked every town they went to, would you really want them rewarded with the chance to represent the country abroad?
Losing - well, we get less practice at it - Lehmann's only lost three games in two years.
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Er I thought it should have been simple, I guess your finding it confusing so I'll explain it as simply as I can.
You stated Arsenal are not a dirty team because they won the fair play league. I was pointing it it was not always the case due to the fact that you get awarded points for things that have nothing to do with the team on the field e.g community work.
So as I said in my previous posts, a long time ago, in the 03/04 season were ranked something like 8th in the fair play league which is based solely on cards, but you won the FA's fair play league because of the amount of points your unbeaten season got you. Same as in 98/99 season Utd won the fair play league, not because they were the cleanest team on the pitch, but because they got so many points from winning the treble.
So as simply as possible, if you want to find out who is the dirtiest team then you should look at the league based on cards and not on other misselanious data.
For the record I don't think Arsenal are a dirty team.