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Originally Posted by Paul
Well now that you have disagreed with most people who have posted, what is your idea for a proper deterrent that would help reduce the amount of youngsters out there that think it's ok to commit crimes, be abusive to people, damage property and generally behave in such a way that ASBOs have to be put in place etc?
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How many times do I have to explain that just because I object to something I *DON'T* have to be able to solve the world's problems as the "price" of that objection???
Oh, and, if you actually bothered to *READ* what I'd written, you'd note that it was the *UNIFORMS* that I was objecting to, not the community service.
It *is* possible for many (but not necessarily all) offenders to be rehabilitated by community service and it's better than putting them in prisons where they are only likely to become better (or more prolific) criminals.
However if you *discriminate* against offenders by forcing them to wear clothing that clearly says "criminal" or "excluded", you are doing *nobody* any favours.
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[...]SOVAâ₠¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢S PHILSOPHY, AIMS AND OBJECTIVES
The Community
SOVA believes that the community has an important role to play in the care and resettlement of offenders and young people at risk. We seek to involve volunteers in the work of the statutory and voluntary agencies in the Criminal Justice system because we believe that:
Successful rehabilitation and diversion requires continuing support through the involvement of local people.
Offenders should not be assisted in isolation from their communities on projects where the only interaction is between paid staff and offenders.
Service for offenders can be improved if statutory and voluntary organisations co-operate more closely,
Public participation in the care of offenders can reduce fear of crimeand translate stereotypes and prejudice into concern and understanding.
http://beehive.thisisderbyshire.co.u...9&PageID=56631
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[...]The Guidance Programme is a pre-Court diversionary programme for first-time juvenile offenders who have committed minor offences such as shoplifting. These juveniles would be let off with a police caution instead of being charged in Court for the offences committed. The Guidance Programme was launched in October 1997 and is administered by MCYS. This unique initiative steers the juvenile away from the Court system, recognising the viability of providing an alternative opportunity for the juvenile to make amends and resolve against re-offending in the future.
http://app.mcys.gov.sg/web/indv_rebuily.asp
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When an individual engages in criminal activity, it is to the advantage of all Albertans that the individual be held accountable and encouraged to become a law-abiding member of society. While the onus for change rests with the individual, it is believed that change can be facilitated by providing offenders with assistance and opportunities that promote positive and productive behaviour.
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In 2002/03, the percentage of successful completion of young offender probation dispositions was 60 per cent. This is down from 62 per cent in 2001/02, but achieved the 60 per cent target.
http://www.justice.gov.ab.ca/publica...ders.htm<br />
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"Can Rehabilitation Succeed and Reentry be Successful"
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Rehabilitation is alive and well in the basic structure of Ohioââ‚ ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s adult felony corrections system. DRCââ‚ ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s treatment and programming menus are extensive. Our agency missionââ‚à ‚¬Ã¢â‚¬ÂÂsimply putââ‚ ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Âis to ensure public safety though good supervision and to prepare offenders to reenter society as productive and contributing citizens.
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It is indisputable that incarceration affects more than just the prisoner. It impacts the offenderââ‚ ‚¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s family and his community. Studies have shown time and time again that minority males are affected more than others by incarceration.
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The effects on offendersâ₠¬â„¢ families are also evident by examining the stigma attached to incarceration. For example, it is often difficult for the offender to find meaningful and gainful employment. Further, we must be mindful that this stigma is not just directed at the offender returning home, but oftentimes transfers to the entire family. Non-criminal neighbors and associates tend to be wary and suspicious of the offender and even their family members, making community acceptance very difficult. Children in particular feel shamed when they are stigmatized from others for the actions of a parent.
http://www.drc.state.oh.us/web/Articles/article92.htm
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Originally Posted by Chimaera
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Originally Posted by Graham
Ah, "everyone who supports human rights is, deep down, actually just a sanctimonious hypocrite who, as soon as they experience the troubles the *rest* (note the exclusion concept again!) of us have suffered will immediately change their tune and join those of us who know the only solution is to string them all up!!!"  |
I wasn't trying to make it 'acceptable' or a 'joke', I was just making a statement, which I believe we are all entitled to do, even if it doesn't conform to your way of thinking.
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Well I'm sorry, but I did find that offensive because it implies that *I* (being someone who supports human rights, would be so shallow as to change what I thought just because it was *me* who was affected, rather than someone else.
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I would be interested to see what your solution would be, as all you have done is picked this thread apart.
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See above.