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Originally Posted by dr wadd
Sorry to have to point this out, but if you want to make a point then it is helpful if you use the words that actually convey that point.
But, since you want to switch definitions mid-flow, if we are to go purely by numerical superiority, the majority of people do not have, and this is but one example, Down`s Syndrome. Do you want to treat those individuals as second class citizens?
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I wasn't switching definitions but refering to a reference I made before. However maybe it wasn't so clear....
Just because I said "history" does not imply that I advocate gazing back at history and recommending that we continue with every bad/evil event that has happened. You are assuming somewhat provocatively..... I have not suggested that we treat anyone as second class citizens..
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Originally Posted by dr wadd
I can find you plenty of examples of cultures where it has been acceptable to use young boys for sexual pleasure. You were the one arguing that we should adopt the example of history as a reason for the banning of gay marriage. You are using historic examples as your benchmark. Further, you are arguing that the weight of history lends it a certain degree of credibility. I can provide historic examples of the acceptability of buggering young boys, so following your argument, it must still be acceptable now.
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I was not arguing that history is a reason for banning of gay marriage. I was saying that it has become acceptable practice over many years for marriage to be man and woman. Acceptable majorative practice has become a recognise benchmark over centuries. Murder for example. Gay marriage may be *in* today but out in 20 years. There have always been fads. What makes you think it is here to stay? [rhetorical - not addressed to you] Has it not been considered before? Have we suddenly seen the light in today's society? Interesting questions.....
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Originally Posted by dr wadd
Or could this be another example of citing an argument that is entirely dependent on you picking and choosing which aspects are valid purely on the grounds of whether they support your opinion or not?
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....like abusing young boys.....?
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Originally Posted by orangebird
History also at one time allowed 'white only' buses and schools, slavery, public flogging and burning witches at the stake. Does Salu think we should have stuck with all that too?
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Yeah right, and we should bring bak the lion pits for Christians too....
