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Originally Posted by Salu
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Originally Posted by Graham
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There seems to be a divide here between those who feel homosexuality is normal and natural and those that don't. The very fact that there is a "gay community" shows an element of ghettoisation. |
Yes, of course, because they have been *forced* into that by the prejudices of the "heterosexual community" in the past.
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If there was a hetro-community then they would be accused of homophobia....so are the gay community heterophobic? You don't hear that word much do you? Surely if homosexuals are trying to promote themselves as natural and normal and wish acceptance then a "gay community" will not help in this. Sure, I understand it's about solidarity and support etc but....
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But whilst they're still faced with the attitudes that some people have that what they're doing is "unnatural" or "a sin" or "deviant" or "not normal" it's a bit different.
Yes, there are courageous people who have stood up and created organisation like Gay Pride and promoted themselves as natural and normal, but not everybody can or would do that because of lingering prejudices.
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Also no matter what one feels about whether gay marriages/child upbringing is harmful or harmless; the fact is we don't know! Society has had thousands of years of experience of bringing up children in a heterosexual environment but very little experience of homosexual environments.
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No, of course we don't know for certain, but that ignorance is not a valid reason to *deny* gay couples the right to adopt any more than a couple being of mixed races was not a valid reason either.
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Another thought is that there is evidence (although I won't attempt to search for it as I am at work) that children who have been sexually abused are more inclined to be gay. Surely this is influence?
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But the people most likely to abuse a child are very often their own "heterosexual" biological parents! Not the most useful argument in this discussion
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Devience by the way is "Differing from a norm or from the accepted standards of a society." according to the dictionary. So that would place homosexuality in that catagory.
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Yes, that is a precise dictionary definition of the word, however to use it solely in that manner is to ignore the underlying implications that go along with it when it's used by some people.
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However as I have said before. I do not persecute gays. I support them as people but not their actions.
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Pardon me if I think that sounds somewhat hypocritical as you seem to be saying one thing and doing another.
All the majority of gays want is for others to mind their own business and let them live their lives in their own ways. If we deny them that right or deny information to those who want to know more about their sexuality and feelings, we're end up with that "ghettoisation" you mentioned at the top of this post.