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Originally Posted by BBKing
All very well, but irrelevant, since your other half and friends aren't asylum seekers but, essentially, economic migrants* (the economy in question being our own, which has deficiencies in skills in certain areas). Ditto my grandad coming from Ireland to work in the Midlands metals industry - he got paid more, they filled a vacancy.
'Asylum seeker', before the unfair and prejudiced demonisation in the right-wing tabloids over the last few years, means 'someone seeking a safe place to live'. That some people choose to *masquerade* as asylum seekers is undeniable (and the point of the asylum system should be to categorise people as one or the other, and kick the latter out). There are many examples of people starting off as (legitimate) asylum seekers and becoming net contributors to society - every East African Asian I've ever met, for instance (they either drive BMWs or Saabs, in my experience). That's to be admired and celebrated, I think.
Lazily repeating the line that 'all asylum seekers are scroungers' does not move the debate on into a realm of honesty, but merely keeps it in the gutter where the Daily Mail, Express and Sun operate. Hence me pulling you up on it.
*Who vastly outnumber the asylum seekers, and are in turn vastly outnumbered by the number of students coming here from abroad to study (320,000 per year, I heard).
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Well I'm an economic migrant as well, cos I go over the border into England where theres better money on offer!
To pick up on your last line.
I have only experience of one foreign student, and she was paying around 10K a term for her course but I guess thats not considered in many arguments when raised.
The reason why we are inviting foreigners in to work with open arms, in relatively well paid jobs is the succession of governments who have ruined those careers. We have ended up with a situation where there are certain career paths that used to be aspired to, and are now avoided. We must lay the blame at the current and former government for our situation.
I would never say "all" asylum seekers are scroungers, but the very nature of people arriving in this country with no documentation and saying they come from country xyz has proved difficult to police. I accept there have been genuine people fleeing these countries to save their lives and their families, however they should be returned when the country is safe.