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Old 22-04-2005, 20:47   #134
Graham
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Re: Wonder what the new Pope thinks of this!!

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Originally Posted by NitroNutter
The context I used it in clearly shows its my opinion on what the child will percieve as normal behavior
Again, only if that child is raised in a box with *not* other influences or experiences at all.

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Originally Posted by Flubflow
You mention "other social interests". What precisely? Basically it comes down the fact that you are misguided, you can't argue seriously on a point by point basis and you are using excuses rather than reasons to support your mere opinion.
While most social interests are unisex theres many social interests that are very predominent in one sex or the other. You really want a full list because you have no clue yourself ?
I want a full list because I want to see what social you think are purely male or purely female and which are going to have such a dramatic effect on a child's development.

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Further to that men and women are different mentally in many ways. A balanced child can only develop normally mentally if it is reared and recieves a balanced mental attitude from the obvious differences between the 2 sexes.
Got any proof of this?

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I really cannot believe that so many people here can categorically state that a reared enviroment would bear absolutely no relevance on how a child develops and really believe it.
Well I don't think that anyone except you *has* actually said that such an environment "would bear absolutely no relevance on how a child develops".

You set up a straw man, you have then knocked it down. Not impressive.

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Yet the country is and has been for some time suffering increased, binge drinking and yob culture, major drugs problems are rife. All the children that start smoking, why ?? purely because they are curious??? if you really think that then you major in naivety.

The majority of the countries current youth problems are in the main down to following bad Adult and older generation role models including their parents and some is peer pressures from friends to.
So what, exactly, does that have to do with gay marriages and adoption?

Why are gay parents going to be more irresponsible than straight ones who allow their children to get into such a situation or who fail to bring them up in a way that means they will avoid such behaviour?

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Now to the morality of this, we as humans pretend to be civilised, a dog will hump anything thats going, including your leg. Why? because its down to its animal instinct, so is our society to be civilised human beings or is it to become a tribe of animals living on the most basic of instincts.
What on *earth* are you talking about? This is not even verging on a coherent argument.

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It is my most sincere opinion that rearing children in a gay enviroment is almost as bad as paedophilia itself,
It is my most sincere opinion that you have now *COMPLETELY* lost the plot and the argument if you are going to compare gay parenting to paedophilia!

This smacks of the sort of desperation that in other threads leads to a Godwin.

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it certainly is not civil behaviour and like someone mentioned its not civil to rear children in a violent enviroment, both amount to abuse in a very gravest of manor.
This is utter prejudiced balderdash and I challenge you to provide *ANY* proof to back this ludicrous claim up.

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any country that adopts this law is not moving their country forwards but moving very much closer to a future dark ages.
Oh gods, here we go again! Somehow allowing gay marriages will cause society to collapse into barbarism!

It's strange, because similar things were claimed by bigots for allowing women to be educated, to vote, to allow blacks education or voting rights and many many more besides.

Yet, somehow, we've managed to weather those and still survive, just as we will survive gay marriages.

Now if you want to argue this further, please come up with something a *little* more credible.
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