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Old 22-04-2005, 16:33   #64
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Re: Vote 2005 week 3, with another new poll

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Originally Posted by Gogogo
Love it! Good idea, I might give it a try, but I'm too busy. Any shame belongs to any Bitish Tory voting, tax dodging, truck driver who may be involved in people smuggling.
So British, tax-dodging, people-smuggling truck drivers are OK in your book, so long as they vote Labour? OK ....

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The issue is solely being raised to grab votes, immigrants whether legal or not are the people who bear the cross on this, there have racist incidents during this campaign already.
Yes, the issue is being raised to grab votes. The purpose of every statement made by every politician for the last two and a half weeks is to grab votes. The purpose of every statement made by every politician for the next two and a half weeks will also be to grab votes. We're in the middle of a General Election and everybody wants to win it. To win it you need votes, and to get votes you have to promise to do things the voters deem worthwhile. I don't see the problem.

As for racist incidents ... the biggest problem seems to be in Bethnal Green, where Oona King (Blairite bottom-licker) and George Galloway (loony left, real Labourite) are slugging it out. Go figure.

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I believe that IND and relevant government agencies are doing their job, go and see the forced removals at Heathrow or Gatwick, it's brutal. The Torys intend to sack thousands of civil servants, the Home Office is no doubt a target.
I don't know why you keep raising this as if it's a scandalous secret. Everyone knows Labour has swelled the civil service with excessive middle-managers and pen-pushers and that should the Tories get the chance they will improve efficiency by making redundancies. Those who face the axe should aim their inevitable resentment at the Labour money-wasters who gave them false hope in the first place.

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Clearly number crunching will show there is no need for concern. There is controlled immigration.
Number crunching? I wish. What a pity your esteemed leader Blair proved that he and his Goverment haven't the first clue how to crunch numbers on asylum and immigration, and in fact that they don't even know what the numbers are. How many times was it that Paxman tried to get him to answer that point? About 20? How can there be 'control' when nobody in the Government knows, even as a rough estimate, how many illegal immigrants there are in the UK?

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You keep quoting Dover, have you tried counting those UK citizens who leave to take up residence in France or Spain etc. The government has been dispersing claimants over many towns. Can't people like you have any pity for asylum seekers, why must you continue to treat them as if they are inferior.


Is that how you deal with people who have a disagreement with you? In the final analysis all you can manage is to slur and distort. I don't consider asylum seekers inferior. And Our lorry fleet is not crewed by shameless, tax-dodging tory people smugglers. I have lost all hope of ever getting something like reasoned opinion out of you so I don't propose to try any longer. There you go, you can have the last word if you want it.

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The economy has been in safe hands since 1997, low inflation, low interest rates and low unemployment. If your friend Mr. Howard takes over he and his friends will ruin it. Where will Mr. Howard find his £35 billion spending cuts? The health service , education, public services will be denied the money they need.
Utter, utter, blinkered rubbish. If you really think that the economy was in a mess until 1997 and then was miraculously turned round in about six months, by an incoming Labour government that made no attempt to change Tory spending plans for two whole years, then you have absolutely no understanding of politics or economics whatsoever. If I were the chairman of your local Labour party I'd be frankly terrified to send you out canvassing. Anybody with an ounce of sense should have no trouble tying you up in knots on their doorstep.
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