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Originally Posted by Gogogo
Yes I know there are cases of abuse. We do seem to have a problem with tax avoiding truck drivers who are only too willing to accept money from people smugglers, job agencies who spend most of their time exploiting local workers, accepting contracts from employers who turn a blind eye to employing people whose stay may not be legal. No doubt these same people vote Tory.
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That kind of slur probably gets you a barrel of laughs down at your local Labour club but it does nothing to advance the cause of reasoned, adult debate. Shame on you.
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In this country the immigration service is responsible for controlling immigration and I'm sure they must be getting rather bored with headline grabbing Tory politicians seeking publicity. The immigration service & Inland Revenue are active in tracking down and dealing with illegal activities. Deportations take place regularly and unfortunatetly a number of genuine cases end up being deported.
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Rubbish. As the Tories have been pointing out, the Immigration Service is one of IIRC eight agencies involved in the whole business of keeping people out of the UK who should not be here. The IS processes the ones that get caught, but you yourself have also mentioned the Inland Revenue, and there are others, Customs and Excise being an example. The Tory policy of streamlining border policing and control seems eminently sensible to me. Only a true red Labourite, with that typical 'jobs for the boys' mentality (bring down unemployment by stuffing the public sector with useless middle managers and administrators), could think otherwise. More on that in a second though.
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You need to remember that over 350,000 UK citizens on average leave the UK every year becoming immigrants themselves elsewhere. So in the end any illegals can only be insignificant.
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Clearly they are not insignificant, else it would not be an election issue in every seat whose constituency has a problem. How I wish you were campaigning in a place like Dover. It would be fun listening to you defend the indefensible while it was right under your nose instead of at a safe distance.
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The Tories really ought to be explaining how their tax proposals and schemes for the economy are going to make sense, but of course they can't since this would expose the programme for job losses.
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Errrm... they have already candidly admitted that pruning the mess your lot have made of the public sector is part of how they're going to save a great big wad of public cash. I don't see why this should bother you though. If the economy is in the truly rosy state you assure us it is, then it oughtn't be too hard for them to find alternative, useful employment.