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Originally Posted by andyl
Ok, might be speaking out of turn but I'm guessing Graham would like to understand the base from which you can make such an assertion (there doesn't seem to be much historical evidence for example). I can easily make groundless assertions but it won't add weight to my argument.
And if ID cards are introduced, the facts and figures will soon become meaningless; it'll be a done deal. Once those rights are lost, no government will return them.
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Andy, much as it pains me to feel like I'm taking a stance anywhere near yours
, I am going to unsubscribe as I feel this has run it's course. My feeling is that Graham has no wish to concede any of my points, and that's fine, it's his perogative. I feel that tangible benefits may be gained by the scheme, but of course they are unquantifiable at this stage; and when someone challenges me to "prove" what I am believing, it's a little tough. Historical evidence is hard to find when there is no history; and while Xaccers seems to be more than holding his own here, I can't see my comments adding much weight.
Anyway, here's to the future, and cheers for the "sparring"!
PS for the record, I notice differing figures being bandied about ie £3billi on and £5.5bil lion. Not really interested in challenging it, just pointing it out.