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Old 08-04-2005, 18:43   #121
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Re: ID card Bill dropped

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Originally Posted by Graham
I think a lot of people considered it worth it when the Poll Tax was introduced.



So you're saying that there are *no* laws that could be introduced about which you would say "hang on, that's going too far!" because there are "some benefits to others"?



Me283, *why* do you persist in this sort of behaviour? It doesn't give your points any more credibility or validity and is as childish as what you appear to be saying you *don't* do!
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What are the penalties for failing to replace a driving licence after losing it?

What are the proposed penalties for failing to replace an ID card after losing it?

See the differences???



Most people are incredibly naiive about the nature of ID cards.

As I have mentioned many a time before in ID card threads, in this country you have the RIGHT to "go about your lawful business without let or hinderence" (a "let" means permission in this context) and to simply *be* on a street in the UK.

Being required to have an ID card means you need *permission* to do something that was, previously, a legal right, you now have to demonstrate that your existence on that street has been permitted by the government.
Sure, certain laws "could" be introduced that I may not like... but then I shall have to wait and see. And if they are, I have three choices: accept them, try to vote out the Government and hope the laws are changed, or live in another country. That's the reality.

And to clarify your last point, being required to carry an ID card suggests that you need to be able to prove who you are, should the need arise; I fail to see how it implies that you need permission to stand on the street?
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