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Originally Posted by scastle
What? You don't have ADSL in Wales? Quick. Somebody tell Russ, his Pipex connection can't be working as the underlying technology it requires is not there..
Seriously. Unless you live in a remote area of Wales that doesn't have ADSL, then you have as much competition there as we do in England. The only difference is there are two cable companies in England. But, each has there own area (for instance, I live in an NTL cable area and cannot have Telewest). True, NTL ADSL is available in Telewest areas, but NTL cable isn't.
With ADSL, however, you DO have alternate ISPs.
Please do not assume that just because somebody does not have the same amount of downloads as you that they don't do anything. I've been using the 'Net (and WWW) since '94 (so I am an experienced user). I do all the stuff that people use as an excuse for breaking the 1G a day download limit like streaming, downloading game demos, OS (Windows XP, 2003, Mac OSX and Linux) patches and service packs, driver updates, antivirus updates and firewall updates, linux distros, xbox live. I sometimes even use VPN and Remote Desktop to connect to my machines at work. There is also one other user in my house. I rarely go through the 1 Gig cap though.
Just because you CAN download 24/7 doesn't mean you have to. Now, I am not saying what you should (or shouldn't) download - that's not my place. Nor is it NTL's unless it violates the Acceptable Usage Policy or Terms & Conditions of their service. The Cap HAS been in their AUP for several years now, so by continued use of the service, you have agreed to it (regardless of wether it was in force at the time you signed up)
Regarding my opinion of the cap? I have argued for the cap in the past (I can see the need for it, but I can also see that it could be a pain), but have stated that IF the cap becomes a problem, I will leave NTL. You are probably free to do the same.
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I didnt say i couldnt get ADSL, like i said bulldog offer 2mb for £2 more than NTL. Firstly I dont like ADSL over Cable and secondly i dont consider paying £2 more for the same service Competition.
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Originally Posted by jonifen
I've read the majority of this thread (it gets boring in work sometimes  ) and I'll continue to stand by my thoughts...
1Gb is a little harsh for people who share their connection to other PCs in the same house. 2Gb is much better and something you could surely only break by getting linux distros and things of an "illegal nature". |
Of course i run a HTPC on my main TV which streams music and music videos directly from the net. However im sure some people here will argue that if you have two PCs that are both heavily using the internet we should be paying for two internet connection
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Originally Posted by zinglebarb
so saying running costs per customer per month is say £10 (plucked out of the ether lol ) a 3 meg customer downloading 30 gig at 52p per gig = £15.60 thats £12 possible profit per customer per month,Ukonline are offering 8 meg with 500 gig limit starting in my town by end of this month ,bye bye ntl me thinks even if i get a drop off cuz of distance im still onto a winner woohoo lol lol.
Ive seen a lot about abusers and breaking the law etc I just hope that everyone who has the opinion of piracy (which is what we are talking about abusers downloading going over the cap) has never watched a copied dvd,or bought bootleg vodka or beer or bootleg tobacco of copied a cd off a friend or installed xp pro from dubious sources, the list is endless,Im sure theres very few on here who are totaly clean and innocent  |
yes i was talking about ukonline earlier... you see if i had this option where i live... then dam straight i wouldnt give NTL a second looking. But NTL no theres no competition .... there was competition until they up'd there speeds but the fact is thats as far as it went. Compared to england and the competitive ADSL speeds NTL are "lagging" behind...