[Chris W]

Originally Posted by 0 morgan 0

But i had a car that did 512k and it now does 2048k i used to go over the speed limit but they still did the upgrade to my car knowing that i'd go over the limit quicker with my upgraded car

So you are happy to break the law just because you can? You realise the penalty for driving 120 is a lot higher than the one for doing 80.

pull another one on me mate... and yeah i could get Nildrem for an extra £2 but its still the same speed. In england you can expect alot more for your money i only have to shop around and i've found 8mb for only £39.99 with a 33:1 ratio and a 500gb cap, but of course NTL are in it for the money, nevermind about the customers...

yes ntl are a private company so their first priority is the shareholders- and therefore their primary interest is making profit. I assume that by "in england" you are aware that these means a few limited areas, and you have to be pretty much sat on the exchange to get the speeds. My g/f lives in central london and the fastest ADSL is still only 2mb.

you know why telewest offer unlimited and NTL dont, because telewest havent got the market held... ntl are the only real competition here in wales... whereas telewest have hundreds of ISP's to compete with. Telewest can do it but NTL cant, yet the two use the exact same type of network...

telewest provide certain areas and ntl provide others- eg, TW serve bristol, but ntl do not, so i don't see where you argument is going... i don't think there are any areas that are served by both cable companies so wherever you are, the biggest choice you will get is ADSL or a cable company.

So why do NTL offer a cap at the current moment in time, because as it is, they can... theres no one who can beat them, theres no one to offer cable at a cheaper price, theres no one to offer a no cap connection or a faster service...

Because of the nature of a cable network if people are hammering their connection (in particular the upstream) this is going to degrade service for other customers. Why should 20 customers suffer because of the actions of 1 when ntl can use a cap to restrict usage. This may make that one person happy, but i doubt very much whether the other 19 will all be annoyed about it. A utalitarian would go for the option that makes the most people happy- and this would appear to be capping the service.

So if you want to be apart of that system and not voice your opinion fine, continue driving your car at the basic speed, ignore the pumping engine under the hood. I guess your one of these people that drive a 30k car yet you drive slow - just so everyone can see you...

I am voicing my opinion- i drive at the speed limit, and for your information i would not by an amazingly powerful car because i do not see the point, same as i would not buy a 4x4 because it does not suit my needs, but now we are getting off topic...

then when did it become your business that i download as i see fit...

go for it... but if you are chastised by ntl for your usage then you should not be surprised- the cap is part of the terms and conditions which you are bound by, if you are not happy with this, take your sevice elsewhere!

now see your getting me wrong,
I have no quibble with ntls service, customer support, television package, phone line etc...

I've only ever had a 100% positive response to say about NTL. However they always and i have always been let down with the broadband. The speeds are great however theres no way i should pay £25 when i litteraly download 24/7... for which i could get away with using a 150k service and still get everything i paid for. But NTL saw it fit to upgrade me, therefore i'll download to the specification of the line i was given.

when you upgraded your speed it was reiterated that the cap exists- so this is the spefication to which you should be working. As stated above, if you have a problem with this then expect to be contacted by ntl regarding your usage.

and im sorry if im leaving a bad impression, i have an opinion and its going to stick. if you dont like it, dont listen... if you want to voice your own you know where the reply button is and im sure you know how this works.

Nothing wrong with having your opinion, but if you listen to and appreciate the opinions of others then you will be welcomed much more warmly. Don't get me wrong, i am not saying that you should agree with me, or anyone else for that matter- there is a difference between being considerate to others's opinions and agreeing with them, and IMHO you are currently walking a fine line.

We all know that you are not happy with a capped service- you have made that quite clear, so i think emphasising and repeating that on this forum will not get you anywhere. Perhaps you need to take the complaints up with ntl in hope for a resolution, or alternatively, seek an alternative ISP.