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Originally Posted by monkeybreath
woah....! Lose the attitude!!
What about people who download from itunes? If i download a song then i would much prefer it to take 30seconds rather than 3 minutes... or an hour and a half on dial up.
I don't use all of the speed all of the time, but it is nice to have it there sometimes.
Going back to ians car analogy- i might buy a car which can do 0-60 in 6 seconds, doesn't mean that i am going to that every time i accelerate, but if i am late, it might come in handy once in a while. This car would cost me alot more than a model that takes 20 seconds to do 0-60 but if i am willing to pay extra, then that is my choice.
The "uk broadband network" you refer to is a privately owned cable network- ntl paid for it and pay to maintain it. The ADSL network has been funded partially by public money, so yes you could moan about lack of development on this, but ntl's private network is not as relevant to the discussion of poor broadband in the UK as ADSL is. As a private entity ntl can invest what they like in the network and in return they will gain subscribers- which incidentally they seem to be doing quite well, with 1.3m customers- more than any other ISP in the UK.
And as for their being no other competitive ISPs in Wales... i can have 2meg from any ADSL provider so i don't think that your comment is quite justified- it may be the case that in some areas ADSL is not available, but you need to be more specific with your comments.
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But i had a car that did 512k and it now does 2048k i used to go over the speed limit but they still did the upgrade to my car knowing that i'd go over the limit quicker with my upgraded car
pull another one on me mate... and yeah i could get Nildrem for an extra £2 but its still the same speed. In england you can expect alot more for your money i only have to shop around and i've found 8mb for only £39.99 with a 33:1 ratio and a 500gb cap, but of course NTL are in it for the money, nevermind about the customers...
you know why telewest offer unlimited and NTL dont, because telewest havent got the market held... ntl are the only real competition here in wales... whereas telewest have hundreds of ISP's to compete with. Telewest can do it but NTL cant, yet the two use the exact same type of network...
So why do NTL offer a cap at the current moment in time, because as it is, they can... theres no one who can beat them, theres no one to offer cable at a cheaper price, theres no one to offer a no cap connection or a faster service...
So if you want to be apart of that system and not voice your opinion fine, continue driving your car at the basic speed, ignore the pumping engine under the hood. I guess your one of these people that drive a 30k car yet you drive slow - just so everyone can see you...
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Originally Posted by homealone
please don't presume you can download the internet 24/7 and then insult those that choose not to - they are not 'stupid', they are using the connection as they see fit - 'none of your business' works both ways  |
then when did it become your business that i download as i see fit...
perhaps if we have speed restrictions we should have a minimum speed limit... oh i forgot NTL wouldnt like that :o
Its up to you if you want to pay £35 for a service you could get for £15 etc... however as i pay £35 i try and get my £35 worth.
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Originally Posted by ian@huth
The £300 doesn't come from me or NTL is has been quoted by more than one ADSL ISP. NTL on the whole give a good service to its users at a reasonable price. Email may have its problems at times but NTL are not alone with this and I can honestly say I have not experienced that much trouble with it. What NTL offer is a broadband service for residential use aimed at the normal internet user. over 90% of users have very few problems and have a usage pattern that falls within the usage limits NTL will be putting in place.
You have no idea how I use the internet so how can you criticise my use and views. I may not use that much bandwidth these days on a regular basis but there are times when I need the advantage of a high speed connection for a short time and I am willing to pay the full cost of having that speed. Many years ago I used to have an internet bill at home that never dropped below £100 per month.
Most of the abusers are not using the internet as it is intended to be used but kid themselves into thinking that their use is normal and acceptable. It isn't normal and it isn't acceptable and before too long you will find out that you have to obey the rules or go elsewhere. You don't get too many regulars bothering to comment these days as all has been said so many times before.
You have made quite an impression with your first few posts on here but not for the right reasons.
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now see your getting me wrong,
I have no quibble with ntls service, customer support, television package, phone line etc...
I've only ever had a 100% positive response to say about NTL. However they always and i have always been let down with the broadband. The speeds are great however theres no way i should pay £25 when i litteraly download 24/7... for which i could get away with using a 150k service and still get everything i paid for. But NTL saw it fit to upgrade me, therefore i'll download to the specification of the line i was given.
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and im sorry if im leaving a bad impression, i have an opinion and its going to stick. if you dont like it, dont listen... if you want to voice your own you know where the reply button is and im sure you know how this works.