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Originally Posted by ian@huth
No, I never have downloaded a mp3 legal or illegal. All my software is fully legal and I was going to say paid for but a lot of it was donated by companies I have worked in conjunction with and suppliers I have dealt with. I have a lot of friends whose livliehoods have been affected by internet piracy which is why I am so against it. I am not alone in my stance on the subject but am probably one of the few who has continued to express their views. Many have given up trying as the same things have been said time and time again over the years on here. We all know the score on usage patterns and we all know that nothing said on here is going to significantly alter NTLs (and other ISPs) thinking on the subject.
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Internet related piracy is an issue (illegal distribution of copyright protected material), and it can directly affect ISP's, and also impact on the livelyhood of honest, hard working people.
Whether we download the odd mp3, or whole software packages, there is no argument that can justify such actions, and we only have ourselves to blame when those who mimic our own bad habits spoil the services for other people.
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Originally Posted by 0 morgan 0
Look NTL are in this for the money, to be honest they have rear ended themselves:
I'm on the 2mb service and here my daily stats:
Uploaded(1.83 GB/Day)Downloaded(8.75 GB/Day)
Now according to NTL if i abuse the service i'll be asked to upgrade (or do one of the alternatives) now if i was to upgrade i'd be download 1/3 more than im currently downloading now. NTL purposely put the speeds up to make them look better in the eyes of the competition. As more people are joining the network there congesting it further. The increased speed and increased users is the ultimate reason why the NTL network is congested (not because people abusing the network).
If NTL wernt so greedy to get new customers they'd of realised that decreasing the prices of broadband and keeping the speeds the same would of been a much more logical solution. Yet in this day and age its figures which count and users want to have the best (the fastest) service. NTL have take advantage of this... if anyone is to blaim for the congestion (which there doesnt appear to be any) then its NTL themselves.
The best example of this greed is NTLs 1mb upgrade which is less of a service than the 300k service. By offering 1MB for a low price NTL can stay in the competition however by offering 1MB they have limited it. However NTL make this out to be the better deal when in fact NTL are saving money on people upgrading to 1mb because over all they'll be using less bandwidth from the network (yet paying the same price.)
We've been with NTL since day one (in wales) and we pay a large sum a month for digital, broadband and a phone service of which we've been greatly happy with. Unfortunately the only service keeping us with NTL is the broadband and if it need be and we ever get any crap off NTL of course its going to be bye bye NTL and we'll go back to Sky + BT and find an ADSL (something i really dont want to do).
I could use stronger words to describe what NTL are doing to its customers on broadband its ultimately a sly tactic to make more money off new customers tempting by what looks like a good broadband offer...  |
I'd get your self ready for a stern letter from ntl with those kind of stats, if they are to be believed.
To be honest, if you did leave ntl, the other folks in your region would probably see an improvement in their broadband service.
