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Originally Posted by me283
 Can you please learn to quote me238. Leaving it for others to figure out what you're quoting and what you typed does not help getting your point across.
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Can you please learn to quote too? It's ME283, not ME238!

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Originally Posted by Chris T
Ridiculous. You're effectively saying that the whole basis of the representative democracy we live in is invalid, seeing as there is no way even 650 MPs can between them encompass experience of every conceivable corner of the nation they legislate for.
No, I am not an employer. And if I were, I hope I would not be so pompous as to claim that I am right simply because of having some direct experience of being one. I have never been to war, killed a fox, been a victim of a serious crime or killed anybody. But as a citizen of a democratic society I have perfectly valid opinions on all of those issues. Live with it.
I think you hit the nail on the head in post 135 when you said that 'technically' you have been an employer due to a series of senior management positions, and through having been a director and a shareholder. Well sorry, but I know plenty of people who are one or more, or all three of those things at once, without ever holding any position within a company that would give them such special insight into the perils of Human Resources that they could claim to be automatically right.
All I hear from you is a rather sad logical fallacy - it's called an Appeal to Authority. You can read more about it here if you have any interest in posting something a little more convincing than 'I'm right because I know I am'.
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I'm sorry, I didn't realise this had gone through parliament, and been approved by every MP; I thought it was an intended proposal by Mr. Bliar to win votes. Silly me. 650 MPs vote for it and it's not even hit the papers.
If you actually bother to read what I said, you might actually appreciate the point I am making. I don't have a problem with employees getting 180 days a year paid holiday... IF IT'S AGREED BETWEEN EMPLOYER AND EMPLOYEE. It is a private contract, and in my opinion the Government should butt out. And for the record, I have NEVER employed anyone on a contract that didn't pay them Bank Holidays on top of their entitlement. This is a point of principle.