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Originally Posted by Gogogo
It's a matter of opinion, the war is over, it's out of date now, we should move on and let the Iraq people resolve their issues as they are doing and the terrorists can now be seen as enemies of the people.
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"Move on"? You're not Tony Blair in disguise are you?
It is not over, & not out of date. It is still very relevant, whether you think it was right or wrong for us to invade Iraq.
Stuff I mentioned in another thread, which could go here:
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Originally Posted by Matt D
Bad New Labour policies (IMO) -
The Iraq war (yes yes, I know many think it was right - but even if you agree it was right for us to go in, it was not handled properly, the aftermath was completely ballsed up, the intel was crap & they bloody knew it was & didn't care or mention, & it seems more & more likely that it was illegal afterall)
Tuition Fees (yes, the Deering Report recommended bringing in Tuition Fees - which Labour then implemented - but it also said Grants should not be scrapped - which Labour ignored)
Top-up fees
PPP for the Tube
All this PFI stuff (e.g. Jarvis & schools)
City Academies (stupid idea, & they're officially failing!)
Creeping privatisation of the NHS
All these NHS targets & the mad drive to artificially keep down waiting lists
"Choice" (screw choice, we want quality)
"House Arrest" et al
ID Cards
Super-casinos
Lack of Lords reform
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Yes, New Labour has done a lot of good. But it's also had a lot of bad ideas.
Still better than the Tories though. But as others have said, there are areas where they try to out-Tory the Tories. e.g. whenever there's a mention of asylum, immigration, Law & Order, terrorism, etc.
Plus, what about the rail network? The Tories privatised it, but New Labour is quite happy to continue to leave it as it is, even though re-nationalising it would make sense, would be cheaper, & would actually be a vote winner.
Connex was stripped from its South Eastern franchise, & that part of the network was brought back into public hands as "South Eastern Trains". Since SET took over, punctuality & reliability have increased, customer satisfaction has increased, & the amount of tax-payer money SET takes in in subsidies has decreased compared to what Connex took, & is less than what the other franchises take. So what does Labour do? Does it think "Hang on, maybe this would work nationwide!" Nope, they actually want to dump it back into private hands asap.
PFI - as Andy said earlier, it seems to be a disaster. And you do not have to be a screaming leftist or a "Trot" to think that.
Also, the Tube & PPP - That's quite a Tory policy, for "New Labour". Took the Tube, & did to it pretty much what the Tories did to BR. Is it working? Not really. Now we just have these companies running it for profit, instead of for the customer, with all the emphasis for them seemingly being on money (which they make a LOT of) rather than safety & reliability.