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Old 17-03-2005, 13:14   #12
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Re: Is this what you want?

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Originally Posted by NitroNutter
Life with no parole and the slippiest soap known to man would be just as good tho and a damn slight more civil, just in case the conviction was incorrect
I can sometimes see why people would call for the death penalty - some crimes are so truly horrific that sometimes I tend to think so too.
However, these calls for the ultimate penalty seem more often to be based on the nature of the crime, rather than the nature of the conviction. Of course some would argue that even incontrovertible may not be enough.

But, if you're going to do it, then you have to be prepared to do it in public - not only because otherwise it becomes a tool of the state, but also because any deterrent effect is completely lost.

That said, considering the case we're talking of is a country where they have no compunction about this kind of thing and where justice is presumed to be less than blind, it would appear that it obviously doesn't deter as much as one might hope. Unless, of course, you want to argue that possibly the man hadn't done anything like it at all, and it was just a malicious prosecution.

On balance, it would seem that not having the death sentence certainly avoids the potential abuses of the system. However, it also means that a jury doesn't have to struggle quite as hard for a guilty verdict.
When I see the evidence in some of those rough justice cases, I wonder how they ever arrived at a guilty verdict. It also bothers me that in many of these cases because new evidence is hard or nigh impossible to find it can take way too long for an appeal to be heard.

So just because we don't have the death sentence, doesn't mean that people aren't destroyed by the legal system - if you're finally found innocent after 10 years or so there is no adequate compensation for what has been done to the person, and often the life they had is gone forever.
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Originally Posted by Paul M
Yes. If his punishment is to be hanged, then why flog and stab him first. In fact, why did they stab him at all ?.
Revenge. Pure and simple. (It was the brother of one of the victims that did that.)

Seems that wasn't part of the punishment, as such:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/17/in...st/17iran.html
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