[AndrewJ]

Those of you who think prison is easy really should visit one. I've visited three and it is frankly laughable to suggest that being detained in one is somehow easy. Add to that that prison really doesn't work as the recidivism rates are apallingly high.

This was my point prisions need to be made tougher, with less luxurys for the prisioners, make it more harsh a enviroment.

National Service? I wouldn't let my kids do National Service. Not a chance.

That is your personal choice, I think the offer of a Army training course for those in Jail of suitable age could work in the favor of the people in making them then learn how to be a man and have some flaming respect for elders.

There seems to be a lot of knee jerk reactions being espoused. I don't have easy answers but I would say that wilst crime should be punished the higher aim should be to prevent re-offending (and indeed to prevent offending in the first place) which means, fore example, providing decent education and support, inside and outside prison.

Again this is my point, inside the prision there would be a offer of Army traning to the youths of suitable age and build, both physically and mentally.

Also education would be a must, as part of being in Jail they would endure a rougher life then they do now with bared windows etc, and they WOULD have to attend classes, and actually learn basic maths,english etc, and once they are released they are put on a probation within college/school, until they make certain grades and get a job.

If they re-offend within this period or afterwards with it being on a record it would be simply back in and twice as much as before until they learn.

However if they are a persistant drug abuser or other low life moron **** who just terrorise the streets and say and do anything to get out of the new tougher jails there would be a nasty suprise which they would be away off since there first offence.

If after 2times you re-offend making a 3rd crime, you are then given life. As it shows you have no will to contend to the rules of right and wrong, and are truely a menance to society.

This then would mean if he/she showed regret after a set time, and still attended classes a commision or board of some kind would then come up with a idea for release or to keep them within jail.

This is my humble view though.