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Old 16-03-2005, 10:56   #105
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Re: The Youth of Today...

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Originally Posted by seaneeboy
I'm frankly disguisted at the opinions in this thread. Perhaps if the young people werenm't exposed to as much violence they would realise that it wasn't the only way to deal with situations?

When can voilence toward children and young people be justified? When they desreve it? Who on earth are you to decide that they do?

When is it approporiate to hit children? In a cold, calculated fasion, or to lose it and beat your child when they don't follow your will?

Frankly I think the wrong people are being demanded to be locked up.

Well said that man. Anyone who thinks the way to deal with unruly children is to assault them - and be proud of it - is not worthy to take part in a debate in which reasoned and intellectual responses are required.

People take great pride in dismissing me (and others) as liberals, having a pop at the 'PC brigade' (whomever they may be) and writing off arguments, however well supported they may be by factual evidence, as kow-towing to "human rights" (which must be put in inverted commas as such a concept is so obviously ridiculous). Well, frankly I'm not ashamed to be a liberal, to be intelligent enough to look beyond tabloid headlines and seek out the wider picture. I'd be very, very ashamed to admit that I took pride in beating a child though, especially if I thought I was actually teaching that child how to behave.
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Originally Posted by Russ D
Regardless of what she did, if anyone, EVER laid so much as a finger on my daughter they'd find themselves in a world of trouble.

Physical discipline is for the parents only.

IMO we don't want a justice system that people fear. We don't want punishments that deter people. What we need is to educate individuals on why certain behaviour is wrong. I refuse to believe that anyone is inherantly evil. They have picked it up from somewhere and the bad seed was planted.

Paedophiles for instance. If they were educated/supported/taught to supress their urges and not act on them, I'm sure things would be different. At the moment they live under the mistaken belief that they won't get caught, as do most criminals. By this point the object has been defeated.

Educate the people. Prevention is better than cure.

Current methods have failed. I'm not saying I have the magic solution but anything would be better than the vigilante mentality.

Well said, for the same reasons I applaud Sean.

Remember too people that kids do not get to choose their parents, the people who give them moral guidance. Giving them a slap, as some are advocating, is hardly going to assist that moral education.
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