Originally Posted by timewarrior2001

errr was it something I said?

(probably heh)

I do stand by my views, my family has "problem children" and I still think it.
I worry about my own son, he's coming up 3, what sort of life is he going to have if current trends continue?

Short sharp shock is what I truelly believe is needed, the liberal approach is spiraling out of control, its time to look elsehwere and find a new solution.