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Originally Posted by Xaccers
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Originally Posted by Graham
No, it is because a ridiculous question.
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It is an extremely valid question, one you felt you could not answer because it exposed the flaws in your argument. |
Unlike the Snark, not everything you say three times becomes true.
You have in no way proven or demonstrated the validity of your point nor shown a flaw in my arguments, no matter how many times you claim it.
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Originally Posted by Graham
You have no proof, no evidence, no *reasonable* grounds for supposing that someone may be a terrorist, yet you consider it "understandable" that someone should be dragged in for questioning simply because they have been seen *next* to a suspect and you seem to think that *they* should be *happy* to be questioned in this way!
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Perhaps you neglected to read what I actually stated Graham?
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No, I read *exactly* what you said. Unfortunately you don't appear to understand the implications of what you are saying.
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What did I state which relates to presumption of innocence when dealing with a suspect? Suspect being the operative word graham, it means that someone is suspected of criminal activity but has not be charged, or found guilty, they are still innocent!
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Yes, but the *ONLY* grounds you have for "suspicion" is that the suspect has been *seen* in the company of another person (who, themselves, may only be a SUSPECT!)
These are *NOT* reasonable grounds for bringing someone in for questioning without further evidence. You are using supposition to imply guilt.
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Perhaps you believe that if someone is murdered in a nightclub the police should let everyone there go and not take them in for questioning, after all, most of them would have had nothing to do with the murder.
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This is an entirely different situation and it is ridiculous for you to suggest that they are at all comparable.
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Or perhaps you have no idea how the law has been working for the past 50+ years?
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Perhaps you'd care to make some reasonable points instead of knocking down straw men?
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Originally Posted by Graham
Justice? Presumption of Innocence? Not in Xaccers' country!!!
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Intelligence? reasoned response? understanding of quoted text? Not in Graham's posts apparently!!!
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Oh dear, back to personal insults.
I'm off again.
