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Old 12-03-2005, 15:11   #16
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Re: Confused about who IS entitled to be in the UK?

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3) Abu Hamza and others are known as illegal immigrants, they preach hatred of this country yet they are allowed to stay, seemingly on an open-ended basis, supported by the benefit system. He even had police presence to ensure his preaching sessions were not interrupted.
That'll be a different Abu Hamza to the British citizen (since 1981, by his former marriage) currently locked up awaiting extradition to the US. So a) not an illegal immigrant, b) not supported by the benefit system (but supported in prison by us I suppose) and c) if the extradition goes through he'll be in an orange jumpsuit before his feet touch the ground.

Le Pen - being a European Union citizen doesn't mean you get freedom of movement without any duty to observe the laws of the country you visit - if I went to Germany and started parading about as a Nazi I don't think they'd turn a blind eye.

We have a remarkably tough immigration system, not that immigration is remotely bad for countries, most immigrants are willing to work and at an age where they make a net contribution to society (look around your local hospital and you'll see that a lot of doctors and nurses are immigrants and most of the patients are British).

Human rights - if you argue that human rights should only be applied to particular humans, isn't that discriminatory and thus wrong? Do you then argue that human rights shouldn't apply to anyone, which is absurd and dangerous?
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