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Originally Posted by obvious
Capping is a non issue for the foreseeable future.
Even the 24*7 leechers have very little chance of being contacted and here's why...
ntl have said that they'll only contact those who degrade the service for others. By using the traffic report function of docsdiag anyone contacted by ntl can simply check to see if their UBR is congested.
I'd suggest that maybe 1 in 50 of the 24*7 downloaders (who are in themselves a pretty rare group of customers anyway) is actually on a UBR where there is any degradation in service even at peak hours due to excess traffic.
The vast majority of the UBR's are NOT congested. It's a myth. How many threads on this site are there where customers complain of not getting their full download rate? Not very many especially when compared to the number of customers out there.
As an aside I find it odd that people are getting worked up over whether the leechers are engaged in illegal activity or not. The fact remains that you cant change human nature. People will continue to download copyrighted material without permission. Any (expensive) measures put in place to prevent this will be simply circumvented by the 'scene' community for example by forcing downloads though port 80 so they look like regular web traffic.
In any case there are a growing number of 'grey area' and legitimate reasons to download in excess of 1GB a day. The 'adult' market alone makes up a huge proportion of overall downloads and much of this content is not copyrighted. Bear in mind that 1GB of DVD quality video is only about 30 minutes of viewing. Timeshifted TV is another huge and arguably legitimate reason to download. 1 episode of your favourite drama/sci-fi or whatever a day could take you over the limit.
People can easily upload/download 1GB of data per day consistantly and legally and they do.
Finally, all those quoting the AUP ad-nauseam would do well to remember that whether an online document that gets updated regularly without formal notification of these changes to the customer can be considered part of the contractual agreement has yet to be tested. Personally I dont believe that it's legal for one party to unilaterally amend a contract without providing notice in writing in advance. But that's another argument.
Anyway I'm off to download that episode of 24 that I missed last week
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It is very easy to quote what is possible on a connection but it is impossible to know what usage there is on every UBR unless you work for NTL and are privy to those stats.
The main fault with your argument though is that you have no control or comeback against anything that NTL say or do. Check DOCSDIAG as much as you like but that does not prove anything other than what was happening at a specific moment in time. If NTL were to contact you and tell you to modify your usage and you didn't so they followed up with removing your service you will have to look for another ISP. There is nothing at all that you could do about it. Tell us how you could defend use of say 50Gb per month and keep your connection if NTL decided they no longer wanted you as a customer.
People mention illegal activity because that is the primary reason for caps being introduced.
It is quite easy for NTL to identify users who download more than 1Gb per day and for them to discover what they are downloading no matter how you change things to try to hide what you are doing.