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Originally Posted by Graham
me283, if you *want* a reasonable debate, please can you *try* to debate reasonably.
Petty sniping and using phrases like "our PC brigade" add no credibility to your arguments.
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I would love to. But I thought debating was about exvhanging ideas and viewpoints, looking at all sides of a discussion, asking and answering questions... the latter point seems to be a bit of a problem with you though, Graham.
And "PC brigade" is a well-known phrase. Why do you object to it?
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Originally Posted by Graham
And *what* do they want to do to "destroy" this country? Why they want to get rid of the fundamental liberties and rights to fair trials, to freedom of expression, to the presumption of innocence etc that we have so they can impose their own version of the rules.
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Well, if you were to listen to the preachings of some of the more radical and extreme members of the religious groups already discussed on this and other threads, you may be aware of the expression "Holy War". There have been incitements to "rise up and wipe out the West" (not verbatim) and the suchlike. Also, what do you suppose "they" want to do with bombs etc?