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obviously · 09-03-2005, 00:55

Today, 16:55 #61
skunk4u

Just need to know are you English?

Today, 18:48 #67
Ramrod

....and in the case of those flag burning arabs outside parliment it represents freedom to upset the inhabitants of the country that has given them refuge. To protest against freedoms greater than they have at home.

Today, 21:42 #75
ScaredWebWarrior

You are either a sad troll or else they're currently debating in Parliament how to deal with you.

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Apologies, long-time reader but very rare poster here. Jumping into the middle of a rather loud debate, but I just wanted to back up Dr Wadd in some respects here.

The tone of this debate, along with several others in this forum, is extremely unpleasant. I've snipped out a few comments above to particularly comment on:

The first one "are you English", has no relevance whatsoever. Firstly I am English and it does not concern me one iota whether someone burns the English flag, the Union Jack or a Red Rose (I'm from Lancashire). I note that the poster implicitly defines themself as English rather than British.

The second comment "those flag burning arabs".."To protest against freedoms greater than they have at home"..(see original reply for full context) again includes several implicit opinions and makes me ask several questions. Which "arabs"? Where is their "home"? Why are they protesting? I don't know the poster but that post is full of meaningless rhetoric.

The third comment " You are either a sad troll or else they're currently debating in Parliament how to deal with you." is also distasteful. I cannot imagine how someone can jump from a flag-burning discussion to accusing someone of being a terrorist and would love to see a real justification of that statement.

Finally, I think the original news story was regarding Abu Hamza being attacked in prison. From all that I have read he comes across as an unpleasant and particularly distasteful individual. That does not justify any individual actions, especially as he is now in the hands of the judicial system. Given the hype that surrounds him, I'm surprised that he was left in a situation where he could be attacked.

09-03-2005, 00:55	#84
obviously Inactive Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2	Re: Abu hamza attacked Today, 16:55 #61 skunk4u Just need to know are you English? Today, 18:48 #67 Ramrod ....and in the case of those flag burning arabs outside parliment it represents freedom to upset the inhabitants of the country that has given them refuge. To protest against freedoms greater than they have at home. Today, 21:42 #75 ScaredWebWarrior You are either a sad troll or else they're currently debating in Parliament how to deal with you. ------------------------ Apologies, long-time reader but very rare poster here. Jumping into the middle of a rather loud debate, but I just wanted to back up Dr Wadd in some respects here. The tone of this debate, along with several others in this forum, is extremely unpleasant. I've snipped out a few comments above to particularly comment on: The first one "are you English", has no relevance whatsoever. Firstly I am English and it does not concern me one iota whether someone burns the English flag, the Union Jack or a Red Rose (I'm from Lancashire). I note that the poster implicitly defines themself as English rather than British. The second comment "those flag burning arabs".."To protest against freedoms greater than they have at home"..(see original reply for full context) again includes several implicit opinions and makes me ask several questions. Which "arabs"? Where is their "home"? Why are they protesting? I don't know the poster but that post is full of meaningless rhetoric. The third comment " You are either a sad troll or else they're currently debating in Parliament how to deal with you." is also distasteful. I cannot imagine how someone can jump from a flag-burning discussion to accusing someone of being a terrorist and would love to see a real justification of that statement. Finally, I think the original news story was regarding Abu Hamza being attacked in prison. From all that I have read he comes across as an unpleasant and particularly distasteful individual. That does not justify any individual actions, especially as he is now in the hands of the judicial system. Given the hype that surrounds him, I'm surprised that he was left in a situation where he could be attacked.