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Originally Posted by yesman
Music downloaded from the internet is being targeted once again, what I canââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t workout is why?
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At the risk of sounding facetious, why not? It's not yours to control it's the music industry's and musicians. If they choose to persue someone who's nicking their stuff that's their right in law. There's a simple way of not being targeted as a music pirate, and that's to not share or download music files from unauthorised sites or people.
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Originally Posted by yesman
Anyone can listen to or record music via a radioââ‚ƚ¬Ã‚¦Ã¢à¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã‚¦..
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If you buy a record or CD, you pay an amount to the various people who have their claim over it. So the record company gets a bit, the artists get a bit, the songwriter gets a bit and the publisher of the lyrics and composition get a bit. Buying a CD gives you no rights, implied or otherwise, of ownership of anything other than the material goods...i.e. you own the plastic but not the intelectual property of the items stored on the plastic.
When a song is played on the radio, the broadcaster pays two lots of royalties for the right to do so. This is collected by the Performing Right Society (PRS) (on behalf of the publishers and in turn the composers) and Phonographic Performance Ltd (PPL) (collecting for the labels and in turn the artists). These are broadcast fees, and give the listener no rights to record, remaster, lend, hire or sells such a recording.
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Originally Posted by yesman
Is this some sort of internet myth? You download music from the internet so you have to pay for it?
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It is not as black and white as that. If you are intending to perform an act that will impeach on someone elses copyright, then it is law that you must obtain their permission to do so. So it's not illegal to download something off the internet, you just need to ask the record company first!
The real issue here is not one of downloading, it's uploading - although naturally (and literally) one is connected to the other - it's supply and demand.
Of the two acts, uploading has to be seen as more serious, just like the person selling dodgy CDs at a car boot sale is comitting a greater offence than the guy who buys them.
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Originally Posted by me283
I always understood it was legal to record music if it wa for "personal use". eg if you have a CD and want to record it to use in the car etc.
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There is no provision under British law to allow for copies of any copyrighted material (for back-up or otherwise) to be made without the express consent of the copyright owner. However under the new EU Copyright Directive there is call for member states to allow for 'reasonable' exceptions to be made.
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Originally Posted by me283
Similarly, if someone loans you a CD, you should be able to record it for personal use, or have I got that wrong?
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Yes! You have that absolutely wrong! Not only are you not technically permitted to lend a CD to anyone, you are certainly not allowed to make a copy of it then hand the original back!
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Originally Posted by GeoffW
IIRC, recording music to tape from the radio was permitted for personal use because the broadcaster had paid a royalty to play it,
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Correct. I forget the exact period of time you're allowed to store a broadcast for (either radio or TV) it's something like 28 days - after which time they must be destoryed or wiped.