[tomaw]

Originally posted by Lord Nikon
I would take that as a sign of peoples dissatisfaction with the "mainstream" candidates really rather than a vote FOR the BNP.

We have had a conservative govt... they messed up the country, we are STILL recovering from their actions.
Labour aren't doing much better. People want a change, but who to vote for?

I am too young to be able to comment on this, but did the Conservatives inherit large debt from the previous labour government? I would not bring this as an excuse for the general state of the country however. We need a state of the nation address...

Racism is and always has been a big problem, and not just in the UK, a couple of centuries ago people went to the US on the mayflower, and proceded to almost eradicate the indigenous population, same thing has happened wherever we have set foot. Australia, South Africa, etc etc. We can hope that we educate the bigotry out of people, but it seems persistant.

History is often bad on reflection....

My personal opinion is that we should close the refugee floodgates and ship some of them to france, germany, in fact any country other than the UK. This is not bigotry, this is economics. This country is having trouble sustaining its existing populace, by accepting more immigrants we are stretching the resources even further, taxation etc is causing the closure or relocation of many businesses outside the country, disposable income has never been so low, unemployment is STILL high, we need to curb this, not increase the amounts.

Whilst I agree with the idealogy of "Do not give charity until you have food at home", I fear that international issues are less simplistic. What are the people escaping? Whilst I am very certain that some of the people (at least some) are pushing the point, some are surely genuine.

I am probably very bias in this though, I have a job, flat, money etc etc and have not just lost anything to someone who hid in a freight lorry from France.

A Prerequisite for living in the UK should be the ability to speak english, (as should the ability to speak german be a prerequisite for living in germany) Or at least show willingness to LEARN the language.

Too many times is language / colour / race used as an excuse for "misunderstandings", as is the saying "They grew up in a different culture", sorry, that does NOT hold water. The laws of a country should apply to ALL, Ignorance is NOT a defence.

Whilst I also agree to this in sentiment, I am not sure I would put it so broad. People working were they need to deal with the public should speak English. I am fed up with spelling my name and the day of the week in phonetics to someone that cannot understand or speak English enough to order a portion of fish and chips. (ignore fact that large portion of fish and chip shop owners may be from a abroad - they cook good chips)

There are as many white people I know who are a***oles as there are asians, in fact some of the most honest people I know are asian, as are some of the least honest. Race or colour does not define a person, a person is defined by his or her actions.

In the same way, I have yet to meet a black person that objects to being called a black person. I have to say that I would take serious issue with anyone thinking that I was being racist for such a comment. I am by no means racist. But logically, if a mans skin is black, he is a black man.
I have to admit that I can only think of a few occasions where it would be useful to describe a persons skin colour, all connection to identifying them. ie: "Did you see Jack come through here, large black man, blue suit etc etc"

The legal system in the uk is totally messed up, People like tony martin face jail for defending their property, criminals are free to sue the people they

he killed a person, and was judged by the law. OK the law may be wrong, but the theory of the system is good. OK the actuallity of the system may be less good.

commit crimes against. Asians avoid issues with the police by claiming racial prejudice when they are pulled over for driving a car with 3 bald tyres, a 5 year old tax disc at 60mph through a 20 zone, with no tax / mot / license and they get away with it. It is not their fault they do this, it is the fault of a legal system that allows it to happen. (Although admittedly some police forces DO target non white people)

I agree with this very much so. Some, not some, people "play the race card".

Thing is, what can we do about it? The laws are decided by people who have little or no idea of what happens in the real world to a majority of people. Even New Labour have no idea, and the idea of that party was for a political force led by the working man.

We should scrap the legal system, scrap the politicians and start over again, electing people into power who DO know, creating laws which no longer give favour to criminals / children. Start trying to make Britain Great again.

We have done this throughout history. It doesnt seem to have worked so far, so why repeat a failed theory? I am not sure who still has power to remove UK government, I presume the Queen does. I am sure it could be argues that it would be better that way, at least by some. One person controlling all seems a bad idea to me, but then so does what we have.

[Edit] Please note, I do not mean PERMANENTLY close the refugee borders... merely until we can sustain ourselves again, and have a growth economy capable of sustaining them

Overall, there are many answers to the situation. None of the work for everyone. Some of the work for some people. The only sure thing is that "the people" themselves need to change as well as the law etc.

I have typed enough, just wanted to add my bit to the record :-)

Tom