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Old 03-03-2005, 21:09   #149
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Re: Muslims should expect to be stopped....

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Originally Posted by Graham
In other words: "Hey, Muslims, other people who call themselves Muslim are being naughty boys, so we're going to target your entire group to be on the safe side. Deal with it"
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If you are worried (as you should be, but for reasons of ID theft, not "national security") that someone was going to go through your rubbish, shred it before you throw it away.

But what would you have us do? If a binman sees something written on a piece of paper that he's just chucked in the back of the wagon and reads it, should he be arrested for breach of privacy???



Where did I say "everyone"? Oops, I didn't.



Irrelevant. You asked for an alternative method, I gave one.
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No, but I refer you to the logical fallacy of the Burden of Proof as mentioned earlier in the thread. *You* have made the suggestion "It couldn't be (in the first instance) that perhaps he fitted a description of a known or reported drug dealer?"

Well, yes, it *could* have been the case. But you will have to prove your side before asking me to prove mine.



Burden of Proof...



Again, prove that they are not.



If there are *reasonable grounds* for suspecting a particular skinhead group, no, I would have no objection.

But going from the suggestions in this thread it idea seems to be that *all* skinheads would be targetted and treated as suspects, whether there is any proof or not.

*THAT* I would object to.

Burden of proof? OK, try this: some police officers are racist... prove that they all are.

And next time you see a gang of skinheads stood outside a Mosque with a gallon or ten of petrol and some matches, chanting about death... prove that they aren't on their way to a barbecue whilst reciting the lyrics to some heavy metal songs.

Get real will you? If you go through life justifying everything you do in advance, you will do nothing. Why? Because you cannot justify the unknown. The 9/11 pilots could have been mid-air joyriders ny your logic. It was only when they hit the Twin Towers that they became genocidal maniacs. Or could you have "proven" that was their intention far enough in advance?
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