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Old 03-03-2005, 13:31   #143
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Re: Muslims should expect to be stopped....

Graham:

Intelligence that doesn't come from informants, apart from odd lucky breaks I mentioned before is "fishing" and as stated by you, is against an individual's right to privacy. Your phone taps example needs intelligence, so you can get the phone tap to get the intelligence you needed in the first place. Chicken-and-egg again. I am still waiting for you to mention any intelligence source that doesn't abuse an individual's right to privacy and doesn't rely on informants.

You said there were "many", so it can't be that hard.
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