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Point proven? Hardly, unless you can actually *demonstrate* a causal link between the two which I very much doubt.
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You seem to be ignoring generally accepted history 
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All of which are about appeasement and NONE of which are *anything* to do with The Holocaust, nor do they demonstrate the slightest causal link between the two.
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As for you saying 'prove a link' between appeasement and subsequent nazi, that can't conclusively be done (you would need a paralell universe) but it is generally historically accepted that the link is there.
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By whom? None of your above cites demonstrate any such acceptance.
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the fallacy is the "Burden of Proof" ie that your claim "it's worth a try" is attempting to put the onus on me to *disprove* that claim, when, in fact, the requirement is that *you* prove your case.
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So my saying that perhaps watching the muslim community more closely is 'worth a try' is the same as you saying that they should be shot?! 
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Except if you go back and *read* the thread you'll note that we were not *talking* about simply "perhaps watching the Muslim community more closely"!
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Now ask yourself this:
*WOULD* the methods being proposed have *STOPPED* New York, Spain, Bali et al...?
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I think it's safe to say the line could be drawn somewhere
before shooting them.[/QUOTE]
But not before locking them up based purely on suspicion without trial, evidence or justice...
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Graham for President.
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Are you *kidding*?!
There is no way I'd ever want *that* job...!!!