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Originally Posted by andyl
1. So do you seriously think we shouldn't be signed up to and abide by internationally agreed Human Rights treaties. And yes, sorry, I do blame sensational, not forgetting right wing, journalism.
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There is nothing wrong with signing up to internationally agreed human rights treaties, provided they are setup and run by sane, intelligent, reasonable people.
The UN and the EU are a joke. They are in no way capable of adminstering such treaties responsibly. An example on UN and human rights: The UN thought that Syria should be in a position to dictate to everyone who to run their own countries (until 2004 it was on the UN Security Council), when we aren't to send its citizens back there because they will get tortured. Well you can't have it both ways, either Syria is a fine and upstanding country, and we should be able to deport people back, or if it is violation of human rights laws, then it should be treated accordingly. Its funny, the UN was set up to avoid a repeat of WW2, and due to its extreme appeasement policy it will stand by and watch history repeat itself.
I like the way you fall back on that old chestnut, the "right-wing journalism". If you woke up with a spot one day, i'm sur you'd think that it is the Daily Mail's fault too.
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3. If we're talking reasonable suspicion as grounds for stop and search then I'm at a loss as to why innocent Muslims would be targeted.
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They won't be, but the BBC want to sensationalise it too. Yes, the left are actually as bad as the right.
What the MP said was no different than: "Innocent people will be convicted of murder". That doesn't mean the police will be going round fitting up innocent people for murder, but that it has happened, and will happen again, regardless of what you try and do. But that would be a reasonable and muted argument, and Auntie wouldn't like to put that on her news would she?