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Originally Posted by Graham
Sorry, *where* did *I* say we should "rely on them as our sole method of intelligence gathering"?
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Without informants, how would you find out anything, without invading privacy?
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Again you seem to be assuming I have said something I haven't. Intelligence is available from the community, from informants and many other sources. All of this can be obtained without trampling on the rights of a complete section of society.
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We already said that informants can't be relied upon for the sole source of intelligence. So what are these "many other sources"? If you know a better way of gathering intelligence that is both informative, but doesn't break people's right to privacy, why not share it with MI5? Or if not them, then share it with me.
Aside from informants, which we discussed was not substiantial enough to be solely relied upon, I can't see any other intelligence gathering that doesn't involve breaking someone's human rights. The only one I can think of is if the police bust something by sheer dumb luck, like if they search a house for stolen goods and find Ricin.