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Originally Posted by Bifta
the British track record on presuming innocence leaves a hell of a lot to be desired and I'd certainly not trust the government or security forces to not abuse these new laws for their own ends.
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Damn right! Which is *WHY* it is necessary for us to make a stink about laws like these and ID Cards *BEFORE* they can be abused!
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Originally Posted by Pierre
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That is racist. Or, if you prefer, religionist. Whatever you want to call it, it is *discriminatory* based on nothing more than fear and innuendo and *that* is most definitely an *unacceptable* fact.
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It is not racist |
It doesn't matter *WHAT* you call it, it is *STILL* discriminatory and unacceptable and that is the important point.
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Originally Posted by Graham
No, it's because they look like MUSLIMS!!!
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True, but there is no getting away from the fact that it is muslim extremists that are the perceived threat. |
Yes, but there is *also* no getting away from the fact that it is *discriminatory* to treat *all* Muslims as suspects based on the actions of a *minority*!
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True, but that is the wrong point.
The search was a condition of your entry to that establishment. If you objected to the search, you could choose not to go in there.
If you object to the Police searching you because you look like you follow a particular religion, they arrest you.
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I take your point, but I refer you back to my posts on Northern Ireland for a better analogy
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And I refer you to Bifta's responsel