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Old 02-03-2005, 15:45   #89
Graham
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Re: Muslims should expect to be stopped....

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It is not necessary for her to *explicitly* mention it, it is *implicit* in what she says.
[...] Nor did she imply that they were going to stop and search everybody either.
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She said later that because the current threat came from people masquerading as Islamists, police would have that in mind when using stop-and-search powers. †œThat is the reality. I do not think it should go unsaid.ââ‚à ‚¬Ã‚

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...507174,00.html
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If the response was *proportionate* to the threat, I wouldn't necessarily object so greatly, but she's *not* talking about it being "proportionate".

She's talking about treating an entire *religion* as suspects.
Is's disporportionate in so far as if you are an islamic asian then you are more likely to viewed with suspicion in a given circumstance - that is a fact, there's no wrapping it up in sugar.
That is racist. Or, if you prefer, religionist. Whatever you want to call it, it is *discriminatory* based on nothing more than fear and innuendo and *that* is most definitely an *unacceptable* fact.

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You're asking everyone to calm down then you say something grossly offensive and inflammatory to the entire Islamic religion saying that *all* of their condemnations of terrorist are nothing but "lip service" and implying that, secretly they're actually approving of these actions and want them to succeed.
Words in mouth time, much like what's happened to the minister.

I'm not implying that. However, I do believe that not all those that speak out are genuine.
But that's *NOT* what you said!

Let me quote exactly what *was* said:

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And the Islamic Council of GB and other major islamic bodies are consistent in their condemnation of terrorism. Funny how that fails to grab the headlines though.
Two words "Lip - Service"
You have dismissed *ALL* of the words of "the Islamic Council of GB and other major Islamic bodies" condemning terrorism as merely "lip service". You didn't even make the *attempt* to suggest that "not all those that speak out are genuine."