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Old 02-03-2005, 15:12   #67
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Re: Muslims should expect to be stopped....

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Originally Posted by me283
And I suggest you think of a better way to prevent terrorism. If you want to sit there and wait for an aeroplane to fly into a skyscraper before someone is considered a danger, then more fool you. I think you will find that not everyone who is a Muslim will be persecuted; I think you will find house arrest to be a little harder to apply for and put in place than an ASBO; and I think you are living in Cloud Cuckoo Land if you believe that "Innocent Till Proven Guilty" is an active concept of English Law.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

The response to the "terrorist threat" disproprtionate and besides is likely to increase that threat. Remember the 'First they came for..." quote - this is the same story. ASBOs are, incidentally, another example of this Government abusing the justice system. You do not face a trial to receive an ASBO but can be jailed if you break the terms of it. The Government has totally lost sight of the innocent until proven guilty concept (you've had your sympathy on your speeding ticket (see Road Traffic Act thread); I think this is just a wee bit more serious) which should underpin our justice system and our understanding of what a civilised country is. Even the Tories are now saying this which just goes to show how widespread disquiet is on the increasingly draconian measures they are seeking to employ.

As for other tactics. Very many people are calling for the use of phone tap evidence in trials; the Government is rejecting this (for seemingly spurious 'security' reasons which even the Police don't agree with). Targeted intelligence is likely to yield far more success than indiscrimate hounding of muslims per se.