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Originally Posted by Paul M
They are mad - who on earth is going to vote for a party that obviously wants to tax everyone to death. |
Well some of us are prepared to pay more tax in return for better services and a more equitable society but as I said before all the three main parties are looking to secure around the same tax take, just by different means. And if 'dog tax' is fines for fouling then that just a stupid bit of politicing by the Tories.
I tell you who is mad; anyone who votes for parties that enable, encourage or ignore tax avoidance.
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Originally Posted by punky
They are two ways you can apply "worst affected" with this new tax system. You could say the rich are worst affected, because they will pay substantially more than what they did before. You could also say the poorest will be worst affected, because although they won't pay as much more as the rich, poor people outnumber rich people, so a greater proportion of British people will be paying more under this new system.
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The poorest in society will be better off, the richest worse off under thse proposals. That is immediately more just than the existing and previous two systems. Those between rich and poor will be affected, but not as greatly. Me, I'd tax the very rich more and protect our beloved Middle England.
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Originally Posted by punky
Well, I thought it made sense if a government wanted to be fair and ethical. In fact if a government wanted to be fair and ethical, why do I have to subsidise everyone's kids through school? Because if only people with kids in school had to pay, they sums wouldn't add up. A tax is designed to be unfair, unethical, and designed to get as much money out of us as possible.
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Eh?! The tax system should be designed to be fair and ethical, but at the moment isn't. We all use services to a greater and lesser extent and benefit from them. Just because you don't have kids doesn't mean you won't benefit from others being educated; education is vital for a lot of things, including the health of economy. Those kids are future tax payers. Should I only pay for the NHS if I need to use it?
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Originally Posted by punky
Lib Dems say "on average" people will be better off. Great if you are in a situation like me, or you are "average", but there will be a lot of poorer people. Struggling nurses, teachers, who won't be better off.
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My partner works with disadvantaged young people who rerally struggle - and I mean struggle - to get by. They are the poorest not those with modest incomes - and they and other poor people wiull benefit from this system