Paul M: I'm not joking about a dog tax. It was mentioned on the Politics Show on BBC1, do a search for dog tax and Lib Dems.
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Originally Posted by http://www.wellslabour.org/libdem.php
The Liberal Democrats also have plans to introduce a further 40 taxes. These include:
A new 50% income tax rate; a water tax; a dog tax; a parking tax; smoker's tax; a new homes tax; a business land tax; a development tax; an exchange and capital flows tax; a higher landfill tax; a waste tax; a plastic bag tax; a pesticide tax; an overseas territories tax; a double whammy inheritance tax; an energy tax; a pensions tax; an airport tax; a congestion tax; and a new tax on 4x4 vehicles.
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Originally Posted by andyl
No. The number of people in a household is irrelevant.
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No, it isn't. If people share a house, and they have to pay council tax (which excludes 95% of rented accomodation), then the council tax is divided between the residents, not multiplied (like with income tax)
Also, people can choose their council tax, in the sense that can select the house in the banding they can afford.
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Sorry I don't understand that point.
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They are two ways you can apply "worst affected" with this new tax system. You could say the rich are worst affected, because they will pay substantially more than what they did before. You could also say the poorest will be worst affected, because although they won't pay as much more as the rich, poor people outnumber rich people, so a greater proportion of British people will be paying more under this new system.
They idea is not to burden the poorest people in society with taxes.
Well, I thought it made sense if a government wanted to be fair and ethical. In fact if a government wanted to be fair and ethical, why do I have to subsidise everyone's kids through school? Because if only people with kids in school had to pay, they sums wouldn't add up. A tax is designed to be unfair, unethical, and designed to get as much money out of us as possible.
Lib Dems say "on average" people will be better off. Great if you are in a situation like me, or you are "average", but there will be a lot of poorer people. Struggling nurses, teachers, who won't be better off.
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You will be worse off with Lib Dems if:
1. You rent your property.
2. You own your property, jointly with other people
3. You own your property, but earn a good wage.
4. You qualify with a council tax emeption (and their are enough of them) There are no exemptions to income tax if you are working. You can't choose what level of tax to pay.
I will only be better off under Lib Dems because I don't earn a big wage, but the house I am in is well "above my means". However if I moved out into a flat, i'd be even better off under Tory/Labour, but worse off under Lib Dems. Ok, so I would be hundreds of pounds better off with Lib Dems, if I stay where I am, because I am lucky (no other word for it really). All my mates will be screwed.
I can't explain it to you any more. If you still can't see how large, poorer parts of the nation will do worse under Lib Dems new system, then we'll have to draw a line under it and move on. If Lib Dems dropped this silly idea, then they will actually do quite well in the elections, as young professionals like teachers and nurses, are their usual fan base. They are going to push them to Labour if they push this new tax forward.