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Old 28-02-2005, 10:13   #198
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Re: Gatso camera case

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Originally Posted by me283
Firstly, why is it stupid? You constantly make the point that higher speed = greater risk of death/injury. I am pointing out that there are still deaths/injuries when drivers have not broken the speed limits. Therefore, if we as a nation are committed to trying to stop ALL deaths/injuries on the road then why not reduce all speed limits to the point where accidents/injuries don not happen? Why is that stupid? I notica also that you didn't answer...
Saying that there are other causes for accidents does not make the case for not enforcing speed limits. Your argument on reducing speed limits is stupid and surely you know that in your heart. We do not live in a risk free world. We cannot eliminate risk but we can try to manage it which is why we have differing speed limits for different road conditions.
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Originally Posted by me283
Second point, is actually wrong to say. Different cars, different drivers, different conditions... all have an impact on stopping distances. You might as well say "that car would have stopped from 30 mph in a much shorter distance if it had ABS brakes. The driver is to blame because he chose a cheaper option on his car". As has been pointed out, why always assume it's the driver's fault?

Yes but speed limits have to be determined for all, not for individuals and individual circumstance otherwise they are unenforceable. That argument doesn't hold water unless you believe speed limits should be scrapped altogether. Conditions - particularly weather - are taken into account in trials too.
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Originally Posted by me283
The facts are that speeding is always pointed at. There are no GATSOs that I know of which can detect a drunk driver, which is far more dangerous in my opinion that having an extra stopping distance of a few feet. However there is a much smaller effort put in by the police to snare drink drivers than there is to catch speeding motorists. Incidentally, drink driving is (I believe) impossible to defend, unlike speeding.
Of course a drunk driver is a total menace. But there are undoubtedly more speeders than drunk drivers. And if the police do not have to spend as much (time and money) on speeders because GATSOs are assisting their job then they have more time and money to target other offenders (in theory at least )
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