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Old 26-02-2005, 15:46   #147
andyl
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Re: Gatso camera case

Cameras catch speeders and that's how they generate revenue. Stop moaning about bloody cameras. If you disagree with speed limits on certain roads - I have reservations about the 70mph limit on motorways myself - then campaign against them, but don't have a pop at the cameras that catch you while you break the law.

Mobile cameras after a fixed camera? Brilliant idea to catch the idiots who clearly know what the speed limit is but think that if they're not going to get caught its OK to break it. The arrogance is breathtaking, not least if they whinge about it afterwards

Can't prove GATSOs save lives? Well you can do a before and after statistical analysis; when that was done an estimated 100 lives saved based on the historical trend.

Let's face it, those that campaign against speed cameras are precisely those that speed, get caught, get points, get a fine. Well you know what? That's what happens.

Resources? Dealt with. If you don't like the fact that revenue goes to the Treasury and not directly into highway safety or wider policing, campaign for change, but stop whinging about cameras which are highly effective at dealing with this specific offence.

Kids? Yes parents should instil road sense in kids but kids are kids and you can't legislate for their giddyness during play etc. So drivers have a responsibility to be aware of the dangers that children (and others) present and take that into account when determing how they are going to drive. Around here many, many drivers not only flout the limit but swerve, towards the kerb) to avoid speed bumps or drive down the midle of the road to avoid speed bumps (very dangerous for cars turning right from side streets). If a small child chases a ball and is hit by a speeding driver are you trying to say it's the kids fault. Drivers should have more road sense than kids, but often they don't and that arrogant insensitivity has been amply demonstrated here.

Yes other offences - particularly driving without due care etc - need to be targeted and are undoubtedly the cause of many accidents. But that does not mean that cameras are a bad idea because they only catch speeders. If you speed you cannot cope as well with avoiding those driving without due care, kids or any unexpected obstacles. That is surely common sense? And if you don't think speed kills have a word with my paramedic mate who's had to scrape up many a cocky driver who thought he knew better than the authorities what an appropriate speed is.
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Originally Posted by Steve H
That 2/3 mph is hardly going to kill anyone. I assume you drive, and know how easy it is to drift slightly over the limit. In some places a 30mph limit is ridiculously slow... and unless you've got cruise control going above that for even a few seconds takes very little. However, we do need limits... obviously there's got to be a cut off, but the limits need reviewing.. and specific limits that are in place for revenue need scrapping - we get ripped off enough.
Ok, its a limit. To tiresomely repeat the point, that means the maximum which means it should be pretty easy at keeping below it. Of course if you're not paying attention to your speed..... So if speed limits need reviewing, campaign for that reviewe but in the meantime stay within the law or don't whinge when you get caught.
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