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Originally Posted by ian@huth
So, they were telling you that you could download movies which is quite correct, you can.
They were also telling you that you could download the Spiderman movie which again is quite correct if you have the copyright holders permission.
It's just like buying a fast car such as the 9 litre V8 Corvette special which averaged 235 mph on Nevada desert roads. It could be advertised quite rightly as being a car that allows you to drive at over 200 mph but try doing that on the M1 and see if you can get away with it.m I don't think that the judge would accept the fact that the advert said you could drive at over 200 mph as being mitigating circumstances for your breach of the law.
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but at that time there were NO legal means to download copyrighted films, no matter what way you look at it. So ntl were in fact endorsing illegal use of their service.
The only legal way to download a copyrighted film, would be if the makers (or someone on their behalf) offered the films for download, on a pay by movie basis. There wasn't such a service available, and i don't even think there is now. So at the very least ntl were leading it's users up the garden path with lies, and at worst they were endorsing illegal downloads.
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Originally Posted by ian@huth
If the copyright holders wished to allow internet transfer of the film to people for review, etc they could have done just that, no doubt having a plethora of non-disclosure and similar restrictions on how the copy could be used. Neither of us know if that actually happened or not. The general public would not have had any legal method of downloading the film but that is immaterial.
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So they could sell their phone service saying 'it's perfect for ordering drugs' - and when questioned by the police they could just say 'ah, but if drugs were ever to become legal, our phone service would be perfect for placing orders to your local dealer, however at the moment we do not endorse such things, even though its' in black and white... oops'.