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Originally Posted by Xaccers
The reason why this thread got sidetracked onto speed cameras is because its a hot topic and an example of the police abusing their powers to make money and catch the easiest criminals rather than the ones that are causing the most detriment to the community.
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Can I just check something? From what I've read in the local paper the funds raised from speeding fines is ring fenced to go back into road safety work, if this is the case then what does this have to do with the police force making money?

Chim can you confirm this either way if you're about?
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
...not ordered, remember he can't force the police to do anything...
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So whats the point in having him/her?

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Originally Posted by Pierre
yet removing cameras from nice straight dual carriegeways.
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Why? The limit's there for a reason (it's set by qualified people with experience in the field, it's not just a random figure plucked out of the air).
As Andyl said, if you don;t agree with it then lobby the appropriate person to get it reviewed. -
Just as you would need to do with a commisioner!
As I've stated before, some people think it's a right to drive on our roads, it's NOT. It's a hard earned privilege which can be revoked anytime you break the law. Speeding is doing just that, as has been stated before, if you cant do the time........
As for a commissioner striking a balance, well I'm sorry but I just can't see it, not with the hysteria over speed cameras that's whipped up by the tabloids.

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Originally Posted by Xaccers
With regards basically means unless it doesn't make operational sense, the cheif constable should take into account the PA (currently) or commissioner (proposed) policies.
So if the commisioner suggests the police should tackle the vandalism outside the local chip shop by a gang of kids, then the chief constable should then incorporate that into his plans for the police tackling crime.
If the commisioner says "I want the police to monitor paedophiles 24 hours a day" the chief will obviously not do that as it's frankly impractical.:
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Yet that may be the reason the electorate chose that candidate, what happens then, the police go their own sweet way (quite rightly) and they are still not accountable! :confused
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
YOU could be the commisioner
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I could be and I'd make a really crap commissioner as I know absolutely nothing about policing, prety much like most of the other candidates wouldn't!
It's easy to spot where the trouble is in life but it's not so easy to come up with solutions.
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Originally Posted by andyl
Maybe they're denying access to liberal types!
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It's a conspiracy I tell you, they've taken all our details and fed them into the Conservative super-computer worked out who has liberal views and they're going to track them down and make you vote Tory!!!!
They'll be issuing ID cards next
Edit- attached the PDF for your perusal Andy - saying that is doesn't look like it's worth spending the time on it!
Does that mean I'm not a liberal if I can access it?