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Old 18-02-2005, 18:43   #803
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.

Heh excellent points made. What I agree with.

Back in broadband early days in the 1990's the early adopters will have been the ones paying £40+ for broadband and are the likely the power users now who NTL are trying to get rid off. I am getting quite sick of some comments made to try and justify these caps, the only 2 options that are good value for money are the 300kbit 30gig cap and the £24.99 2mbit 30 gig cap, the 1mbit 3 gig cap and 3mbit 30 gig cap are both huge profit makers.

Now to be honest :-

I dont care if someone pays the same price as me and downloads 5x as much.
I dont care if someone pays the same price as me and shares it with a whole household of people.
I dont care what others download.
I dont care if you spend £37.99 to surf the net and send emails and expect everyone else to do the same.

Some FACTS.
All the family that lives in my area incidently are NTL customers, and guess what they all unhappy, the first lot arent happy because no boardband in their area, the second lot unhappy because no digital tv and had a lot of billing errors, I am unhappy because of india call centre's caps etc. Another family member is unhappy because he cant have sky sports news and premiership plus (no digital in area) This is not made up I know no happy NTL customers sorry to dissapoint.

More facts, if it was cheaper to rent someone's network then use your own then why would BT build their own network and rent it out to isp's, what kind of suggestion is that, the evidence is clear, easynet have their own network, they dont rely on BT wholesale, and their package portfolio proves it, you can all claim they not making a profit but I am willing to bet they are making a profit. NTL are making a 50% operating profit as stated in another thread which is no surprise since they own their own network and use transperent proxies and have a cap, this 50% is about to increase when these new tiers come into force.

What baffles me is NTL staff on here claim that customers are not thick/stupid whatever word you want to use yet carry on trying to sell a 3mbit tier as a surfing package and not as a downloading volumes of data package which is what its really suitable for. You can send your emails over a 3mbit connection but it wont make jack difference to a 512kbit connection. The only difference is you paying an extra £20 a month.
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