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If I had *said* that "the Police do checks on people working with children" you would have been right.
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Really?
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Yes, I did. *None* of which says "the Police do checks on people working with children".
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Originally Posted by Grahaam
resources that could have been used to deal with the criminals who commit those common offences were being dedicated to something that that is extremely rare.
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Now, as I said, no police resources are being dedicated to checking on the safety of employees working with children, and the people who do the checking don't deal with criminals who mug or break into houses.
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The point is that many extra workers had to be drafted in to supplement those working at the Criminal Records Bureau in order to do all the checks the government all of a sudden required after Soham. Those workers cost money. Money (and workers) are resource. So resources that could have been used *by* the Police were being used elsewhere.
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The statement I made regarding political influence wasn't directed at you, hence the line break.
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In which case you could have made it clearer since it followed immediately after a comment that was definitely directed at me.
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So, lets go over things for clarity:
The commisioner will be replacing a large amount of expensive beurocracy
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Possibly. However it's more likely IM(cynical)V that they will just replace one lot of bureaucracy with another lot.
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The commisioner will be voted in on the merits of his policies
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Or, rather, they will be voted in depending on how good they can make themselves look whilst making their opponents look bad. Facts and relevant information will most probably be lost in the rhetoric.
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It will be up to the cheif constable to impliment those policies within operational expectations
The cheif constable will have operational independance as he currently does.
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So the elected official can claim that *they* said "we should do this" but was over-ridden by the Chief Constable, so it wasn't *their* fault (possibly despite the fact that it may have been an inefficient use of resources or a completely impractical or inappropriate policy but which sounded good to the media).
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YOU could be the commisioner
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*I* have more sense...!
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No need to come back at any of that as I've made my arguments and , in my opinion, you have failed to convincingly argue against them. |
And, in my opinion, this is the tactic of "declaring victory" in the hope that nobody will notice that you haven't made your arguments at all
