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Old 16-02-2005, 23:30   #711
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Re: *ALL* Speed Upgrade Discussion In Here Please

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Originally Posted by Horace
People have enough to worry about without having to watch their and their families bandwidth usage. The moment people start getting put down to 56k(if that is the case) or disconnected they'll leave NTL completely.
Explanation : It's damn easy to go over 30gig usage, a bit of virus infection here, a trojan or two there, spyware, kids downloading on peer to peer networks etc etc and then legitimate usage on top of that. When you have thousands of families who don't even understand the concept of a bit or byte how the hell are you going to get them to monitor their usage especially when you have many families now with networks, wired or wireless(as promoted by NTL ho ho) with PC's in kids bedrooms.
Are NTL losing money on broadband? If not then they should quit being greedy before their Indian tech support gets inundated with lots of zero-tech people complaining that their network sucks because they're getting crappy download speeds. This hasn't been thought through. If NTL can monitor bandwidth or will be able to shortly then they should only target the leeches that are downloading multiple gigs a day and leave everyone else to pay their monthly bills and not have to scream at the kids for using the PC too much. Even if people don't hit the caps, the worry of it is enough for them to stuff the service altogether, hell maybe we might be the first major economy in the world to see a decrease in broadband usage.
It's not damn easy to go over 30Gb a month. Don't blame the kids for excessive and illegal use, control them. Do you let them have free reign with your telephone, they may be racking up massive bills calling their friends mobiles. Viruses and trojans are rarely if ever going to result in massive regular bandwidth consumption. Most things in life have to be monitored, gas, electricity, water, petrol, telephone, credit card usage, cash spent, etc. etc. so why not internet usage. The internet is not free and users have to pay the cost of using it. If you want unlimited internet access on the cheap then QOS will suffer. If you want a decent service then you will eventually have to pay a much higher price or face usage restrictions.
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Originally Posted by Doofy
I regularly visit people on NTL cable who simply do not have a clue. They have got 2 hopes of keeping an eye on there usage Bob hope and no hope, the first a lot of people will know about it is when the connection suddenly drops to a crawl. I sometimes not all the time go over the limit last month i hit over 30 gig and no i am not running a pirate cd business either. The bottom line is i have more than 1 comp connected (family) Some people will genuinely require higher usage levels quite legally, i dont see much provision made for such people at this time.
The old chestnut of multi PC homes. Why should a single user subsidise the multi user household? If you buy a cake you can eat it yourself or share it. If you are going to share it the shop will not give you more than one cake for the same price you each have a smaller piece.
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