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Old 27-01-2005, 13:11   #530
mojo
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Re: [Merged] *ALL* ntl Cap Discussion In Here Please.

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Originally Posted by ianathuth
Just remember that we live in the UK and have to accept the constraints that living here puts on the services we have.
This is the problem with the British: we suck but that's 'cos we are British so don't complain. If we complained more, as consumers are beginning to realise, we would get a better deal.

I disagree that comparisons with other countries are meaningless too. There are many comparable countries to the UK, and it makes sense to compare ourselves to them in order to judge our own performance and improve it. Saying that they have "better infrastructure" and we would need "massive investment" isn't an excuse not to do it, it's a reason to do it! It's admitting that we are rapidly falling behind. It's not like other countries were somehow blessed with super fast IP networks, they had to make the investments too. They just realised that, in the long run, it would be worth it.

Let's look at our clostest neighbour, France:

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Originally Posted by slashdot
20Mbits/sec DOWN and 1Mbit/sec UP. No cap. and that's for 30 Euros per month.

The service comes with free telephony [adsl.free.fr] to any french landline (calls to mobile phones cost something), and very cheap international rate, like 3 eurocents to europe.

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Additionally the modem is free, includes optional router functionnality and you can add a WiFi card for a mere 20 euros.

Oh and they now give you 1GB hosting space with no ads, PHP, MySQL
I think that's a legitimate reason to put pressure on NTL and all UK ISPs to improve. To be fair, for most ADSL providers it's BT that is holding them back, but still...