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BBKing · 19-01-2005, 20:46

We'd have to have enough of a legal system and security for a trial to take place, the Iraqis would actually have to be in charge of their own country and there'd have to be enough electricity for people to actually be able to watch the trial on TV.

Damien - if you're flip-flopping over the war you owe it to yourself to check out:
Why Iraq is now a net *importer* of fuel,
Why the insurgency is growing despite assurances that flattening Fallujah would put an end to it,
For that matter, why is flattening cities the size of Leicester with overwhelming firepower the act of a civilised power putting an end to tyranny,
Why it's more dangerous to live in Iraq now than under Saddam,
Why, 11 days before the election, fewer than half the population live in areas safe enough to vote,
Why having an undemocratically elected Shia-dominated Parliament is going to have a cat in hell's chance of appeasing an irate Sunni minority who are well armed and well motivated and have had the Americans tied up nicely for months,
Why curfews and border closures are deemed a requirement for holding a 'democratic' election,
Why people can't get sufficient information on the candidates because of insecurity, lack of fuel, lack of electricity and dangerous streets,
Why we're having to send *more* troops in nearly two years after the invasion,
Why 20 people a day are being murdered in *Baghdad* in terrorist acts,
Why foreign journalists covering the election are going to have to avoid travelling around on land for fear of kidnap or assassination, even between the airport and the centre of US power,
Why the Iraqi security services are completely incapable of providing any security at all (despite GWB's assurances during the election, which turned out to be more downright lies)
Why there were no al-Qaeda terrorists in Iraq before the invasion, but now they and their followers are powerful and influential enough to stop the election being in any way free, fair or representative.
Why companies whose employees were involved in Abu Graibh are being rewarded with more contracts

And the big one - how is the UK in any way, shape or form better off financially, more secure or better thought of in the world after this fiasco?

Phew.

19-01-2005, 20:46	#17
BBKing R.I.P. Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: London Services: 20Mb VM CM, Virgin TV Posts: 5,983	Re: Iraq pictures We'd have to have enough of a legal system and security for a trial to take place, the Iraqis would actually have to be in charge of their own country and there'd have to be enough electricity for people to actually be able to watch the trial on TV. Damien - if you're flip-flopping over the war you owe it to yourself to check out: Why Iraq is now a net importer of fuel, Why the insurgency is growing despite assurances that flattening Fallujah would put an end to it, For that matter, why is flattening cities the size of Leicester with overwhelming firepower the act of a civilised power putting an end to tyranny, Why it's more dangerous to live in Iraq now than under Saddam, Why, 11 days before the election, fewer than half the population live in areas safe enough to vote, Why having an undemocratically elected Shia-dominated Parliament is going to have a cat in hell's chance of appeasing an irate Sunni minority who are well armed and well motivated and have had the Americans tied up nicely for months, Why curfews and border closures are deemed a requirement for holding a 'democratic' election, Why people can't get sufficient information on the candidates because of insecurity, lack of fuel, lack of electricity and dangerous streets, Why we're having to send more troops in nearly two years after the invasion, Why 20 people a day are being murdered in Baghdad in terrorist acts, Why foreign journalists covering the election are going to have to avoid travelling around on land for fear of kidnap or assassination, even between the airport and the centre of US power, Why the Iraqi security services are completely incapable of providing any security at all (despite GWB's assurances during the election, which turned out to be more downright lies) Why there were no al-Qaeda terrorists in Iraq before the invasion, but now they and their followers are powerful and influential enough to stop the election being in any way free, fair or representative. Why companies whose employees were involved in Abu Graibh are being rewarded with more contracts And the big one - how is the UK in any way, shape or form better off financially, more secure or better thought of in the world after this fiasco? Phew.