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Originally Posted by punky
We have been through the whole forceful interrogation arguments before so i'll skip that.
I think the Iraqis will realise that what the Brits and the US got caught for is nothing, nothing compared to what Saddam used to do to them. Or what Syria/Egypt still does. If only people really knew what Saddam got upto. People tend to avoid it, more often than not to justify their objection to war.
The protests to these photos would be more principled than anything else. The Iraqis (hopefully) should see the bigger picture.
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My position on the war has been flip-floping all the time. First I supported it then a few months ago i was angry at the way it was enacted and dealt with but still supported the war, even though no WMD had been found (my support was never because of WMD).
What us and the americas did, in my view, was a good thing. With all the anti-american and anti-war feeling going around it is easy to forget what Saddam did. Torture & murder was a daily process in Saddams Iraq, although this still happens it will slow down and stop. Punky is right that people gloss over saddams record because it makes the issue much more complex and anti-blair/bush/american protesters (not all of them, mind you) do not want a complex issue. They want black and white. War=bad & No War = Good. As many of the protesters protested on the Human rights of the Iraqi's Saddams record was a sticking point in that record.
Dispite these pictures, it is important to remember that although people may think that they are too excessive, bent on money and oil and stupid. America is on the side of good, If you have the power to stop the murderious acts commited daily by Saddam then there is already a strong arguement to do so.
We all forget that the real 'bad guys' are the terrorists themselfs and not the Americans who want to remove the terrorists. People who seem to think that america is evil and the terrorists are not to blame for 9/11 and all the other acts they commited is frankly brainless. Saddam, similer dictators, and the terrorists are the real evil here and not the americans. We should remember this next time a anti-american rant kicks off
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Originally Posted by Gogogo
Whatever happened to the belief in innocent until proven guilty?
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WHen ever someone posts a new item to do with a horrific act the sensible voices of Justice and Innocent until proven gulity are drowned out by the lynch mobs demanding that they are strung up by the nearest lamp post
