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Old 18-01-2005, 18:12   #38
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Re: Stupid Yanks

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Originally Posted by punky
1. Gun crime is falling in the US a lot. US DOJ website. and again. Interesting reading.
I'll admit, I don't have time to go through those stats, but seeing as guns were also legal in 1993 when the figures were much higher, I see that as evidence of a reduction in crime in America, but one that doesn't necessarily have much to do with guns.


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2. http://www.connected.gov.uk/facts/statistics/index.html



3. As Scastle has already said the vast majority of gun crime is commited by gangs. The same gangs that deal in drugs despite being them being banned as well. When you ban gun only the criminals have them. Peaceful law abiding citizens who use guns don't influence the stats enough, only criminal activity as a whole. You have banned guns, now what? Gangs are still using them, and getting them with suprising ease.
My point is that where guns are legally available, that ensures a greater supply of illegal guns for the gangs. After all, why would a gang member use a gun that is registered to them? They'll either buy a gun straight from the factory, or they'll buy one someone has nicked from a licenced gun owner.

That connected.gov link is interesting, it says the UK only has a gun problem in three areas, how many in the US?

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But to answer your question, shooting guns is fun (IMO), hunting (other people think) is fun (and a really big industry), and of course self defence. Like the quote I mentioned before: Gun control: the theory that a 100lb woman should have to fistfight with a 250lb rapist. Even if I didn't shoot I would still support the right for responsible people to own and use guns. It is the same with hunting, and I will never hunt. It is as much a civil rights issue as well as a self-intrest one.

Noone has the answer. If anyone knew how to fix gun crime, then it wouldn't exist? And if someone knows something the governments of the world don't, then please share with us and pick up your Nobel Peace Prize. There will always be crime, always be murders, and always be people illegally using guns, importing and distributing them regardless of wether they are illegal or not.

Surely introducing a gun to an already tense situation would make that situation worse? I'll admit Rape is a bit more than a tense situation, but if the victim points a gun at the Rapist, it might make the rapist more likely to kill the victim?

BTW, I do respect your right to an opinion, just as I hope respect my right to a different one (or to argue with yours)..


But, I agree with you in one respect. I don't think we will ever entirely get rid of Gun related (or any violent) crime.
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